RE: Blue sheet harvest

Hadriel Kaplan <HKaplan@acmepacket.com> Sat, 05 April 2008 06:03 UTC

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From: Hadriel Kaplan <HKaplan@acmepacket.com>
To: Bill Manning <bmanning@ISI.EDU>
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 02:02:35 -0400
Subject: RE: Blue sheet harvest
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Bill Manning
>
> > Do people seriously think (or fear) they are are getting scanned in
> > the room?
>
>         i have emperical evidence of the fact.

Not that I don't believe you, but it baffles my mind as well, so I'm curious how you know it's from blue-sheets rather than IETF signup/registration or mailing lists or anything else?


>        Now Scott claims this is not honest. I will need to spend some
>         time trying to understand why refusing to participate in all
>         aspects of a strictly voluntary process is dishonest.

Because you could still be eating the cookies. ;)

-hadriel
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