Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affecting IETF operations

Melinda Shore <> Mon, 07 March 2016 04:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affecting IETF operations
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On 3/6/16 6:54 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
> It's perfectly appropriate to be upset.  I thought of it in a slightly
> different way--like a space that we were exploring and, in the early days,
> we figured out this consistent path through the space: IP, TCP, and so on.
> What's been happening over the last few years is that the IETF is filling
> the rest of the space with every alternative approach, not necessarily any
> better.  Every possible alternative is now being written down.  And it's not
> useful.  -- Jon Postel

I keep going back and forth on this.  If we're going to let
the market decide there's inevitably going to be some waste,
but we really have put a pile of time and effort into standardizing
things that have never seen any uptake and almost certainly
never will.  That doesn't bother me that much, but what does
bother me about it is that that's one of the reasons we're slow.