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Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affecting IETF operations

"Eggert, Lars" <lars@netapp.com> Tue, 22 March 2016 10:02 UTC

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From: "Eggert, Lars" <lars@netapp.com>
To: "l.wood@surrey.ac.uk" <l.wood@surrey.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affecting IETF operations
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On 2016-03-22, at 2:03, l.wood@surrey.ac.uk wrote:
>> The mode of failure I keep seeing in IETF is the following:
>> 
>> 1) A very narrow scope is decided 'to focus'
>> 
>> 2) Poorly thought out aspects of the proposal are defended because the
>> problems they cause are 'out of scope'
>> 
>> 3) The resulting RFC describes a protocol that is worse than useless.
>> 
>> 4) The proposal fails in the market.
>> 
>> 5) The experience is used as 'proof' that the problem is insoluble. (optional)
> 
> This holds for the IRTF too - though step 5 there is 'let's form an IETF workgroup to push it into adoption! This time for sure!'

No, it doesn't "hold for the IRTF." Please don't generalize from your dislike of the DTNRG's bundle protocol to the DTNRG as a whole, and then to the entire IRTF.

Lars

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