Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> (The Tao of IETF: A Novice's Guide to the Internet Engineering Task Force) to Informational RFC

[Brian E Carpenter <[e-mail]>]

John,

On 2012-05-31 16:19, John C Klensin wrote:
...
> Assuming Paul isn't planning to get this published as an RFC and
> then immediately retire from the IETF and that we don't have a
> delusion that this document will not need to be maintained and
> updated as things change, I propose the following:
> 
> (1) Establish the Tao as a modified Wiki, complete with live
> HTML links to relevant documents and other relevant
> discussions.. Provide some mechanism for comments to the editor
> or even discussion that works better than the RFC Errata
> process.  Turn maintenance of that page over to a volunteer or
> two (ideally someone young enough to learn a lot from the
> process) or the Secretariat.   Before someone says "cost",
> please calculate the costs to the community of an extended Last
> Call in which people debate details of wording.

+- some trivia such as avoiding the fuzziness of a wiki, isn't that
what http://www.ietf.org/tao.html already achieves?

I tend to agree with your suggestions below.

    Brian

> 
> (2) Appoint Paul as chair of an editorial committee with zero or
> more additional members to be appointed at his discretion
> subject to advice and consent of the IESG.  That committee gets
> to consider whether to make changes.  If they get it wrong, they
> are subject to the community's normal forms of abuse and, in
> principle, appeals.  That could add a bit of work for the IESG
> but I suggest only a bit and less than running a Last Call.
> 
> (3) Replace/ obsolete RFC 4677 by a document modeled on RFC
> 5000.  I.e., it should explain why we are maintaining the Tao as
> one or more web pages and should provide a durable pointer to
> how the web page can be found.
> 
> just my opinion,
>    john
> 
>