Re: [imss] AD Review for draft-ietf-imss-fc-fcsp-mib-02.txt
Keith McCloghrie <kzm@cisco.com> Fri, 06 June 2008 14:49 UTC
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Subject: Re: [imss] AD Review for draft-ietf-imss-fc-fcsp-mib-02.txt
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Hi Dan, Thanks for your comments. My responses are below. > The document is mature and seems stable. As the comments in these review > are relatively minor or editorial, I recommend sending the document to > IETF Last Call, and consider these comments as LC comments, to be > processed and fixed (if necessary) together with other LC comments. > > T1. Should not the arrows for Get Policy Summary and Get Policy Objects > in the diagram in 3.4.4 be bi-directional? I think the I-D is correct because the diagram in 3.4.4 is meant to be a copy of Figure 25 of FC-SP, and indeed it is a faithful copy in respect to the directions of the "Get Policy Summary and Get Policy Objects" arrows. So, I think you're asking whether FC-SP has the arrows in the correct direction(s), and I think the answer to that question is: the arrows indicate the movement of "data", rather than of "messages". In other words, a "Get" (with no data) goes in one direction and a Response (typically with data) to the Get goes in the reverse direction, So, while the messages are bi-directional, the diagram has arrows for the "with data", not for the "without data" direction. > T2. The DESCRIPTION clause of the T11FcSpHashCalculationStatus TC - > 'Writing a value of 'correct' or 'stale' to this object is an error > ('wrongValue')." As a MIB module could in theory be used with other > protocols than SNMP a better formulation is 'Writing a value of > 'correct' or 'stale' to this object is an error (SNMP 'wrongValue' or > the equivalent in other protocols)." If I recall correctly, Bert asked me to include "wrongValue", and you're correct: I should have done so as an example. I'd prefer to change it to be: 'Writing a value of 'correct' or 'stale' to this object is an error (e.g., 'wrongValue')." (Note that 'worngValue' is not correct for all versions of SNMP.) > T3. Why is not T11FcSpAlphaNumName an SnmpAdminName with the appropriate > size limitation? Because section 3.5 of RFC 2579 says: Note that this means that the SYNTAX clause of a Textual Convention can not refer to a previously defined Textual Convention. > T4. I do not see storage defined for t11FcSpPoOperTable and no > storageType object either Correct. I don't believe they are not needed because: 1. This is a read-write (not read-create) table. 2. The two write-able objects in this table are both defined as: When read, the value of this object is always the zero- length string. So, new values of these two objects are not persistent even for the time taken for the SetRequest (e.g., much less than across restarts). 3. For the two remaining objects in the table, one is defined to have the value 'none' when "activation/de-activation has not been attempted since the last restart of the management system", and the other is defined to be the zero-length string in that situation. > E1. Running idnits results in the following references warnings: > > -- Obsolete informational reference (is this intentional?): RFC 2837 > (Obsoleted by RFC 4044) Yes, it's intentional. The text reads: The first standardized MIB module for Fibre Channel [RFC2837] was focussed on Fibre Channel Switches. It was obsoleted by the more generic Fibre Channel Management MIB [RFC4044] which defines basic information for Fibre Channel Nodes and Switches, including ... > -- No information found for draft-ietf-ipsp-ikeaction-mib-nn - is the > name > correct? > -- No information found for draft-ietf-ipsp-ipsecaction-mib-nn - is > the > name correct? The names are correct because their numbers have been replaced by "nn" so as to implictly refer to the most recent versions. It was hoped that these two documents would have progressed in advance of the FC-SP MIB, but it looks like FC-SP MIB is about to overtake them. The current text which references them is: The management of certificates, Certification Authorities and Certificate Revocation Lists is the same in Fibre Channel networks as it is in other networks. Therefore, this document does not define any MIB objects for such management. Instead, this document assumes that appropriate MIB objects are defined elsewhere, e.g., in [IPSP- IPSEC-ACTION] and [IPSP-IKE-ACTION]. I don't know of alternate references, and it seems to me better to include them here rather than not to have any references. What would you suggest ?? > E2. Please expand the following acronyms at first occurrence: HBA, ESP, > SAID HBA - yes, I can expand HBA. ESP - its first use, as an acronym, is already expanded -- when used as "ESP_Header" it is the name of a mechanism, i.e., not an acronym. SAID - is the name of a field in a PDU, i.e., not an acronym. > E3. Delete the comment on the SYNTAX line of the T11FcSpPrecedence > definition My preference would be to delete the range *and* the comment because I think the range by itself is misleading. That is, when I read a syntax with an explicit range, my instinctive reaction is that a range other than the default is being specified, which is untrue in this case (because the default range is being used). However, Bert insisted that the range be included, and therefore to mitigate the risk of confusion, I believe that: if the range is necessary, then so is the comment. However, I will remove the exclamation marks if you wish. > E4. Does the notation INCITS xxx/200x mean that the x values need to be > filled in? In this case these values should be filled in until the time > the document is submitted for approval to the IESG, or appropriate RFC > Editor notes should be created to instruct the RFC Editor what to do. Correct. David has provided the instructions to the RFC Editor for these numbers in previous docuemnts done by this WG. Keith. _______________________________________________ imss mailing list imss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/imss
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- Re: [imss] Re: Changes to draft-ietf-imss-fc-fam-… Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Re: Agenda for next week's T11.5 Managemen… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] FW: MIB Doctor review draft-ietf-imss-… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] FW: MIB Doctor review draft-ietf-imss-… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] FW: MIB Doctor review draft-ietf-imss-… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] Last Call: 'Fibre-Channel Name Server … Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] Last Call: 'Fibre-Channel Name Server … Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Re: DISCUSS on Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Re: AD review of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-fspf-… Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Re: AD review of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-fspf-… Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Re: AD review of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-rtm-m… Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Re: AD review of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-fspf-… Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Re: AD review of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-fspf-… Claudio DeSanti
- Re: [imss] RE: AD review of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-r… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] RE: AD review of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-r… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: Fibre Channel RSCN,… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: Fibre Channel RSCN,… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: Fibre Channel RSCN,… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] WG last call: draft-ietf-imss-fc-rscn-… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: Fibre Channel RSCN,… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-imss-fc-fcs-m… Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] A couple of loose ends Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] WG last call review: T11-FC-FABRIC-LOC… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] WG last call review: T11-FC-FABRIC-LOC… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] WG last call review: T11-FC-FABRIC-LOC… Claudio DeSanti
- Re: [imss] WG last call review: T11-FC-ZONE-SERVE… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] Last Call comments on draft-ietf-imss-… Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] Last Call comments on draft-ietf-imss-… Black_David
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- Re: [imss] T11 MIB issue resolutions Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] T11 MIB issue resolutions Keith McCloghrie
- [imss] Rereview for draft-ietf-imss-fc-rscn-mib-0… Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
- Re: [imss] Rereview of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-fcs-mi… Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] Rereview of: draft-ietf-imss-fc-fcs-mi… Black_David
- Re: [imss] re-view: T11-FC-FABRIC-LOCK-MIB in Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] re-view: T11-FC-FABRIC-LOCK-MIB in Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
- Re: [imss] re-review: T11-FC-ZONE-SERVER-MIB in Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] re-review: T11-FC-ZONE-SERVER-MIB in Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
- Re: [imss] Acceptance of draft-kzm-imss-fc-fcsp-m… Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] Acceptance of draft-kzm-imss-fc-fcsp-m… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB Black_David
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB WIJNEN, Bert (Bert)
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB Black_David
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB WIJNEN, Bert (Bert)
- RE: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB WIJNEN, Bert (Bert)
- Re: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] MIB doctor review part 1 (SYNTAX Check… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] MIB doctor review part 2 (T11-FC-SP-TC… Keith McCloghrie
- RE: [imss] MIB doctor review part 2 (T11-FC-SP-TC… WIJNEN, Bert (Bert)
- RE: [imss] imss WG Last Call: FC-SP MIB WIJNEN, Bert (Bert)
- Re: [imss] AD Review for draft-ietf-imss-fc-fcsp-… Keith McCloghrie
- Re: [imss] AD Review for draft-ietf-imss-fc-fcsp-… Black_David
- Re: [imss] AD Review for draft-ietf-imss-fc-fcsp-… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)