Re: [Ltru] Numerical region subtags (RE: extlang)
Addison Phillips <addison@yahoo-inc.com> Wed, 21 March 2007 03:50 UTC
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No, that's not correct. The UN M.49 codes (the numeric subtags) are allowed in language tags. The code "419" is one of these. What Doug is saying is: the codes and what they mean are defined by the UN, not by separate registration on the ietf-languages list. Just like the ISO 639-1 codes are defined by ISO 639, not by separate registration. Addison Don Osborn wrote: > Thanks Doug. Sorry you may have noted this too (forget with so many details). > > So the Africa numerical region subtags have not been defined/adopted by IETF-languages, but the Latin America numerical tag "419" has? (Hence es-419?) Not that I'm planning on it, but if there were a need for a tag for say East African Swahili or for African French, one would need to make the proposal to IETF-languages? > > Just clarifying. TIA.. > > Don > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Doug Ewell [mailto:dewell@adelphia.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 3:31 PM >> To: LTRU Working Group >> Cc: dzo@bisharat.net >> Subject: Re: extlang >> >> Don Osborn <dzo at bisharat dot net> wrote: >> >>>> Yes, hence language tags such as "es-419" [Latin American Spanish, >>>> essentially]. This is a somewhat artificial distinction useful in >>>> certain contexts. But most language tags have some basis actual >>>> language distinctions. >>> Thanks for reminding me of this (I believe John mentioned it a while >>> back). It might be an approach useful for a number of African >>> languages (Swahili and Hausa for starters, although each have >>> country-level locales already) and probably for such as African >> French >>> or English. >> I brought this up once; John may have also. >> >> Here are the numeric region subtags that refer to Africa: >> >> 002 Africa >> 011 Western Africa >> 014 Eastern Africa >> 015 Northern Africa >> 017 Middle Africa >> 018 Southern Africa >> >> As a reminder, these are defined by the UN Statistics Division, not by >> ietf-languages. >> >> -- >> Doug Ewell * Fullerton, California, USA * RFC 4645 * UTN #14 >> http://users.adelphia.net/~dewell/ >> http://www1.ietf.org/html.charters/ltru-charter.html >> http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/ietf-languages > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ltru mailing list > Ltru@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru -- Addison Phillips Globalization Architect -- Yahoo! Inc. Internationalization is an architecture. It is not a feature. _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
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- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: IANA, UTF-8 and the Language Subtag Re… Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Gerard Meijssen
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- RE: [Ltru] Re: extlang Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: IANA, UTF-8 and the Language Subta… David Conrad
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Karen_Broome
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: IANA, UTF-8 and the Language Subta… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- [Ltru] Numerical region subtags (RE: extlang) Don Osborn
- Re: [Ltru] Numerical region subtags (RE: extlang) Addison Phillips
- [Ltru] Re: Numerical region subtags (RE: extlang) Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] RE: Numerical region subtags (RE: extlang) Don Osborn
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] extlang Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] extlang Randy Presuhn
- [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Martin Duerst
- Re: [Ltru] extlang Martin Duerst
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Martin Duerst
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Karen_Broome
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Re: extlang Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Marion Gunn
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Marion Gunn
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Marion Gunn
- [Ltru] Use of the string "microlangauges" Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Karen_Broome
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Re: extlang Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Marion Gunn
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang GerardM
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Re: extlang Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Marion Gunn
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