Re: [manet-dlep-rg] Multicast in dlep-04

Teco Boot <teco@inf-net.nl> Mon, 11 November 2013 18:21 UTC

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Subject: Re: [manet-dlep-rg] Multicast in dlep-04
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Op 11 nov. 2013, om 18:38 heeft Stan Ratliff (sratliff) <sratliff@cisco.com> het volgende geschreven:

> 
> On Nov 11, 2013, at 11:52 AM, Teco Boot <teco@inf-net.nl>
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Op 11 nov. 2013, om 02:26 heeft Stan Ratliff (sratliff) <sratliff@cisco.com> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>>> Oh, one more "By the way" - 
>>> 
>>> The stuff on "logical destinations in the network" (the multicast explanation) was *already in DLEP 04*. In the "Introduction" section, towards the bottom. Specifically: 
>>> 
>>> "Multicast traffic is handled in IP networks by deriving a Layer 2 MAC
>>> address based on the Layer 3 address. Leveraging on this scheme,
>>> Multicast traffic is supported in DLEP simply by treating the derived
>>> MAC address as any other destination in the network. To support these
>>> logical destinations, one of the DLEP participants (typically, the
>>> router) informs the other as to the existence of the logical
>>> neighbor. The modem, once it is aware of the existence of this
>>> logical neighbor, reports link characteristics just as it would for
>>> any other destination in the network. The specific algorithms a modem
>>> would use to report metrics on multicast (or logical) destinations is
>>> outside the scope of this specification, and is left to specific
>>> implementations to decide."
>>> 
>>> I'm kind of surprised everyone was surprised….. or is the above explanation really obtuse?
>> 
>> This texts perfectly states why to take it out of the core document. We need to get more info on how multicast is handled and thereafter define the DLEP extensions for it.
> 
> 
> WHAT?!?!?!?!?! Your response makes no sense to me whatsoever. 

If there is no idea on semantics for exchanged data items, let's take it out of the IETF standards process. 

I guess you missed my intention. I prefer clearly defined protocols that are useful for any of us. That includes DLEP multicast support. 


Teco