Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF WG
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From: Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>
To: "t.petch" <ietfc@btconnect.com>, Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz>, Mehmet Ersue <mersue@gmail.com>, 'Netconf' <netconf@ietf.org>, 'Benoit Claise' <bclaise@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF WG
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> Kent > > 7 is a monster because of the XML encoding rules, not because of the > revised datastore concepts. And datastores, as you say, are more > important - revising the XML encoding rules is cosmetic, not needed > technically and, as I said, only make sense when the NETMOD WG has done > its bit; and the revised charter being discussed on the NETMOD list > makes no mention of this work. > > So scrap NETCONF XML encoding rules. > > Tom Petch Hi Tom, Such changes fall under the "maintaining" clauses in the NETMOD charter: a) Maintaining the data modeling language YANG. This effort entails periodically updating the specification to address new requirements as they arise. d) Maintaining encodings for YANG modeled data. This effort entails updating encodings already defined by the NETMOD working group (XML and JSON) to accommodate changes to the YANG specification, and defining new encodings that are needed, and yet do not fall under the charter of any other active IETF working group. Our charter does not call out every little thing so we don't have to update it all the time. Note, the Milestones do need to be updated frequently, but our WG can do that without IESG approval. Kent
- [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF WG Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Lou Berger
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Lou Berger
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] health of NETCONF t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] health of NETCONF Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] health of NETCONF t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] health of NETCONF Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] health of NETCONF Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Alexander Clemm
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Alexander Clemm
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Alexander Clemm
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Alexander Clemm
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Benoit Claise
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Acee Lindem (acee)