Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF WG
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From: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com>
To: Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>, Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com>
CC: Netconf <netconf@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain.all@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain.all@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF WG
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Subject: Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF WG
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Kent, On 3/22/17, 6:21 PM, "Kent Watsen" <kwatsen@juniper.net> wrote: >[resending, sorry, wrong key-chain draft alias used before] > > > >Hi Mahesh, > > >>> Again, a keystore is not limited to asymmetric keys. At the moment >>> it is exclusively asymmetric, but that's only because we (the authors) >>> moved the passwords (read symmetric keys) that were present in the >>> previous version to the ietf-ssh-client module, but they may return, >>> as many real-world keystore mechanisms do manage passwords as well >>> (e.g., Mac OSX's Keychain Access utility). >>> >>> The module names are fine, but we could update the draft title. How >>> about "A System-level Keystore Model"? >> >> >> How about "Asymmetric Key System-level Keystore Model"? >> >> And add a reference to keychain model for symmetric keys. > > >Regarding "asymmetric", as mentioned above, while the keystore module >is currently exclusively asymmetric, it's probable that passwords will >be added to it in the future. > >Regarding "system-level", I'm not 100% sure. Specifically, the PCE-PCEP >use of the ietf-tls-client module, which uses the keystore module, gives >me pause. Is it still a system-level use then? > >Maybe one of the authors of the RTGWG key-chain draft to try to express >how the two modules differ, Is this a trick question? As the author of ietf-keystore, I¹d fully expect that you know the difference. >and why they shouldn't be merged into one >draft. They shouldn¹t be merged since they serve entirely different purposes and will be implemented and deployed by different sets of network devices. Furthermore, the key-chain draft is more mature and referenced by 6-10 other IETF YANG models. Thanks, Acee > >Thanks, >Kent > > >
- [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF WG Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Lou Berger
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Lou Berger
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] health of NETCONF t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] health of NETCONF Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] health of NETCONF t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] health of NETCONF Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] health of NETCONF Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Alexander Clemm
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Alexander Clemm
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Alexander Clemm
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Alexander Clemm
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Benoit Claise
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Acee Lindem (acee)