Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF WG
Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net> Tue, 21 March 2017 16:41 UTC
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From: Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>
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Subject: Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF WG
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Hi Tom, We renamed our "keychain" module to "keystore" about four months ago, in part to help disambiguate it from the rtgwg's "key-chain" module. The rtgwg's key-chain module is specific to symmetric keys used in routing protocols, whereas the netconf keystore module is primarily focused on asymmetric keys used in authentication protocols. We discussed a while back (> 1yr ago) about potential overlap and decided that there was none. During YANG doctor review, I encouraged Acee to add a statement about the non-relationship, but he didn't go for it. FWIW, the PCE-PCEP module plans to use both the key-chain and keystore modules. Kent -----ORIGINAL MESSAGE----- What interaction, if any, is there between draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain-15.txt This document describes the key chain YANG data model. file "ietf-key-chain@2017-02-16.yang" currently in IETF Last Call, and draft-ietf-netconf-system-keychain-00 This document defines a YANG data module for a system-level keychain mechanism file "ietf-system-keychain@2016-07-08.yang" ? Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mehmet Ersue" <mersue@gmail.com> To: "'Benoit Claise'" <bclaise@cisco.com>; "'Susan Hares'" <shares@ndzh.com> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 4:32 PM > Dear All, > > > > based on the recent discussion and proposals please find below the updated > charter proposal for NETCONF WG. > > Please comment before March 24, 2017. > > > Following Benoit's support the I2RS-related additions have been added as a > separated item. > > Being dependent on netmod-revised-datastores point 6 and 7 have been defined > as a goal without a deadline. > > > Mehmet > > > Network Configuration (netconf) > > ------------------------------- > > > > Charter > > > > Current Status: Active > > > > Chairs: > > Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com> > > Mehmet Ersue <mersue@gmail.com> > > > > Operations and Management Area Directors: > > Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> > > Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> > > > > Operations and Management Area Advisor: > > Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> > > > > Mailing Lists: > > General Discussion: netconf@ietf.org > > To Subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf > > Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/netconf/> > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/netconf/ > > > > Description of Working Group: > > > > Configuration of networks of devices has become a critical requirement > > for operators in today's highly interconnected networks. Large and > > small operators alike have developed their own mechanisms or have used > > vendor specific mechanisms to transfer configuration data to and from > > a device and to examine device state information which may impact the > > configuration. Each of these mechanisms may be different in various > > aspects, such as session establishment, user authentication, > > configuration data exchange, and error responses. > > > > The NETCONF protocol (RFC 6241) provides mechanisms to install, > > manipulate, and delete the configuration of network devices. NETCONF > > is based on the secure transport (SSH is mandatory to implement while > > TLS is an optional transport). The NETCONF protocol is data modeling > > language independent, but YANG (RFC 7950) is the recommended NETCONF > > modeling language, which introduces advanced language features for > > configuration management. > > > > NETCONF WG recently finalized the development of RESTCONF protocol > > (RFC 8040) which provides an interface over HTTPs for accessing data > > defined in YANG. RESTCONF is based on the capabilities and uses the > > datastore concept defined in the NETCONF protocol specification. In > > support of RESTCONF the YANG-Patch (RFC 8072) mechanism has been > > provided for applying patches to configuration datastores. The YANG > > Module Library (RFC 7895) provides information about all YANG modules > > used by a network management server. > > > > Last but not least NETCONF and RESTCONF Call Home (RFC 8071) have been > > developed, which enable a server to initiate a secure connection to a > > NETCONF or RESTCONF client respectively. > > > > In the current phase of NETCONF's incremental development the > > workgroup will focus on following items: > > > > 1. Finalize the YANG data module for a system-level keystore mechanism, > > that can be used to hold onto asymmetric private keys and certificates > > that are trusted by the system advertising support for this module. > > Based on the known dependencies this draft has the highest priority > > for the WG. > > > > 2. Finalize Server and Client Configuration YANG modules for both > > NETCONF and RESTCONF as well as the Client and Server Models for SSH > > and TLS. > > > > 3. Finalize the Zero-touch provisioning for NETCONF or RESTCONF-based > > Management as a technique to establish a secure network management > > relationship between a newly delivered network device configured with > > just its factory default settings, and the Network Management System) > > > > 4. Provide a revised version of RFC 6536 (NETCONF Access Control > > Model) by adding support for RESTCONF and the YANG 1.1. constructs > > like "action" and the "notification" statements. > > > > 5. Provide a set of documents enabling advanced notification/ > > subscription capabilities, which gracefully co-exist in a deployment > > of RFC 5277. The new capabilities include e.g. transport independence, > > multiple dynamic and configured subscriptions in a transport > > session. RFC 5277 will be obsoleted in parallel to the publication of > > the new document set. Following specifications will be addressed: > > - Protocol-neutral notification framework, i.e., explaining the > > concepts of subscriptions, filters, subscription state > > notifications, replay, etc. and defining the associated YANG data > > model, RPCs, etc. > > - Definition of notifications sent over NETCONF and how YANG > > notifications are encoded in XML and JSON. Include considerations > > for parallel support / implementation compatibility with RFC-5277. > > - Definition of notifications sent over RESTCONF and HTTP2 and how > > YANG notifications are encoded in XML and JSON. Include specifics > > of call-home and heartbeat for subscriptions. > > - The subscription and push mechanism for YANG datastores allowing > > subscriber applications to request updates from a YANG datastore. > > > > 6. Provide a revision for the NETCONF and RESTCONF protocols and the > > used datastore framework building on the datastore concept in NETMOD > > revised datastores work. Bug fixing will be done and potential > > extensions will be added. Provide guidance on how to adapt and use > > YANG with NETCONF and RESCONF protocols. NETCONF XML Encoding Rules > > from RFC 7950 will be moved to RFC6241bis. > > > > 7. Define capabilities for NETCONF and RESTCONF to support I2RS protocol > > and ephemeral state datastore requirements. > > > > Based on the implementation, deployment experience and inter- > > operability testing, the WG aims to produce a NETCONF status report > > in a later stage. The result may be clarifications for RFC6241 and > > RFC6242 and addressing any reported errata. > > > > > > Goals and Milestones: > > Done Submit NETCONF/RESTCONF Call Home to AD/IESG for consideration as > Proposed Standard > > Done Submit YANG Library to AD/IESG for consideration as Proposed > Standard > > Done Submit RESTCONF to AD/IESG for consideration as Proposed Standard > > Done Submit YANG Patch to AD/IESG for consideration as Proposed > Standard > > > > May 2017 WGLC for Zero-touch configuration mechanism > > Jun 2017 Submit Zero-touch configuration to AD/IESG for consideration as > Proposed Standard > > May 2017 WGLC for system-level keystore mechanism > > Jun 2017 Submit keystore mechanism to AD/IESG for consideration as > Proposed Standard > > May 2017 WGLC for Server and Client models for NETCONF and RESTCONF > > Jun 2017 Submit Server and Client Configuration models to AD/IESG for > consideration as Proposed Standard > > May 2017 WGLC for Client and Server Models for SSH and TLS > > Jun 2017 Submit Client and Server Models for SSH and TLS to AD/IESG for > consideration as Proposed Standard > > Jun 2017 WGLC for RFC 6536bis (NETCONF Access Control Model) > > Jul 2017 Submit RFC 6536bis to AD/IESG for consideration as Proposed > Standard > > Jun 2017 WGLC for advanced Notification/Subscription specifications > > Jul 2017 Submit Notification/Subscription specifications to AD/IESG for > consideration as Proposed Standard > > > > > > From: Benoit Claise [mailto:bclaise@cisco.com] > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 4:49 PM > To: Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>; Mehmet Ersue <mersue@gmail.com>; > 'Susan Hares' <shares@ndzh.com>; 'Andy Bierman' <andy@yumaworks.com> > Cc: 'Netconf' <netconf@ietf.org> > > > > On 3/8/2017 12:57 AM, Kent Watsen wrote: > > I agree with Mehmet, any changes to the NC/RC protocols should be done in > the NETCONF WG. > > +1. > > Regards, Benoit > > <snip> _______________________________________________ Netconf mailing list Netconf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf
- [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF WG Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Lou Berger
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Lou Berger
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] health of NETCONF t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] health of NETCONF Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] health of NETCONF t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] health of NETCONF Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] health of NETCONF Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Alexander Clemm
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Alexander Clemm
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Alexander Clemm
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Alexander Clemm
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Benoit Claise
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Susan Hares
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Robert Wilton
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF … Acee Lindem (acee)