Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF WG

"Mehmet Ersue" <mersue@gmail.com> Thu, 02 March 2017 15:37 UTC

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From: Mehmet Ersue <mersue@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF WG
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Hi Andy,

 

I also think a new version obsoleting the current RESTCONF document is not needed.

The bis-documents can be prepared as updates. The WG will decide which way to go.

 

It is true that we need to plan the schedule based on 7950bis timing.

 

Mehmet

 

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Subject: Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF WG

 

 

 

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 9:01 AM, Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com <mailto:andy@yumaworks.com> > wrote:

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Sep 2017          WGLC for NETCONF and RESTCONF bis documents

Oct 2017          Submit to NETCONF and RESTCONF bis documents AD/IESG for consideration as Proposed Standard

 

 

 

 

 

I am opposed to creating new versions of NETCONF or RESTCONF at this time.

I do not see anything in the charter that cannot be defined in RFCs that update (not obsolete)

the existing protocols.  Both are designed to allow new functionality to be

added and advertised as capabilities.

 

 

I should clarify this comment.

NETCONF was last published in June 2011 so it is not unreasonable to

do a new version.  But all protocol features should be on the table.

There is a list (in case you have an important feature to add to the list)

 

https://github.com/netconf-wg/rfc6241bis/issues

 

If the scope is just support for revised datastores, then than can go in its own RFC.

If the scope is applying the lessons we have learned since June 2011 to make

NETCONF much better, then 6241bis is appropriate.

 

RESTCONF was published a month ago so a new version should not be in scope.

 

 

Andy

 

 

Andy

 

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