Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force

Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us> Sat, 20 August 2016 16:56 UTC

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From: Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us>
To: "DOLLY, MARTIN C" <md3135@att.com>, Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>, "stir@ietf.org" <stir@ietf.org>
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Thread-Topic: [stir] Robocall Strike Force
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+1 to Martin’s comments. The ATIS/SIP Forum NNI TF is going to meet next week to get a debrief on the Strike Force meeting and review the ongoing work plan and documentation.

There are quite a few moving parts here but if this WG can move forward without any new roadblocks we should make considerable progress.

Remember this is not just protocol.  There will be protocol police here.  Chairman Wheeler made that abundantly clear. This is a highly regulated industry. One of the SF groups is specially chartered to look at the regulatory, legislative and law enforcement constructs surrounding implementation. 

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On 8/20/16, 11:41 AM, "stir on behalf of DOLLY, MARTIN C" <stir-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of md3135@att.com> wrote:

    Being it is joint effort of ATIS and SIP Forum, if you are a member of either, yes. SIP Forum is quite open. But documents are about to be updated.
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: stir [mailto:stir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Paul Kyzivat
    Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 11:18 AM
    To: stir@ietf.org
    Subject: Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force
    
    Martin,
    
    Are these documents (both the SHAKEN stuff and the Display Framework) publicly available?
    
    I looked on the sip forum web site but didn't find them.
    
    	Thanks,
    	Paul
    
    On 8/20/16 8:05 AM, DOLLY, MARTIN C wrote:
    > Tony,
    >
    >
    >
    > For deployment in the USA, this ITU work would be totally useless.
    >
    >
    >
    > The ATIS - SIP Forum is has a profile of the IETF STIR RFC drafts in 
    > the SHAKEN Framework document.
    >
    > Further, SHAKEN telecom industry framework - Signature-based Handling 
    > of Asserted Information using Tokens
    >
    > 1.      Defines the architecture and NNI dependencies around the usage
    > of the PASSporT and 4474bis based framework
    >
    > 2.      Defines the security model around management and usage of
    > certificates used to sign and assert caller identity information
    >
    >
    >
    > In addition, there is a Display Framework document, that defines the 
    > requirements for signaling the verification information from the 
    > network to the user device and the requirements for what is displayed 
    > on the user device independent of technology.
    >
    >
    >
    > Service Requirements to support the above is being brought into the 
    > 3GPP
    > SA1 meeting in San Francisco next week, 8/22-26 (Being led by Greg 
    > Schumacher, Sprint).
    >
    >
    >
    > I will be bring in a discussion paper and CRs into the October CT1 
    > meeting in China with the support of Nokia and Ericsson (and hopefully 
    > the other USA companies).
    >
    >
    >
    > WRT display  on the user device, there will be a combination of 
    > vendors getting requirements based on the ATIS-SIP Forum Display 
    > Framework given to them as part of ecosystem participation in the FCC 
    > Strike Force and/or direct requirements from carriers. In addition, 
    > further documentation to in GSMA, Cable Labs, etc... specifications may/will occur.
    >
    >
    >
    > Up to now, the coordination has been with the ATIS-SIP Forum 
    > co-chairs/leaders and moving forward with the FCC Strike Force 
    > Authentication Committee (co-chairs Chris Wendt and myself, so there 
    > the transition should be seamless)
    >
    >
    >
    > With the above work plan I do not see a role for the ITU on the Caller 
    > ID Spoofing.
    >
    >
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    >
    >
    > *Martin C. Dolly*
    >
    > Lead Member of Technical Staff
    >
    > Core & Government/Regulatory Standards
    >
    > AT&T
    >
    > Cell: +1.609.903.3360
    >
    > Email: _md3135@att.com <mailto:md3135@att.com>_
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > *From:*Tony Rutkowski [mailto:tony@yaanatech.com]
    > *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 4:48 PM
    > *To:* DOLLY, MARTIN C <md3135@att.com>
    > *Cc:* IETF STIR Mail List <stir@ietf.org>; Paul Najarian 
    > <NajarianPB@state.gov>
    > *Subject:* Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force
    >
    >
    >
    > Hi Martin et al.,
    >
    > It is worth noting that for the
    > upcoming SG17 meeting, China's
    > MIIT, China Unicom, and China mobile
    > have proposed a new work item that
    > is substantially related to stir work.
    > Indeed, the proposal contains a useful comprehensive overview of 
    > related SDO activities, including stir, and a gap analysis.
    >
    > I expect that the usdel to the meeting would appreciate any views from 
    > the Task Force and stir participants on the contribution.  In 
    > addition, how does stir and the IETF anticipate collaborating with 
    > SG17 and the other SDOs going forward?
    > The NWI seems almost certain to get approved, and may well be before 
    > WTSA 2016.
    >
    > best,
    > --tony
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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