Re: [stir] JWT/JSON (was - Re: Review of: draft-ietf-stir-passport-05)

Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Mon, 08 August 2016 23:24 UTC

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From: Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net>
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Subject: Re: [stir] JWT/JSON (was - Re: Review of: draft-ietf-stir-passport-05)
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On 8/8/2016 4:14 PM, Peterson, Jon wrote:
> In that case, if the list has heard your issues, I'd be interested in
> knowing how much support there is for implementing the changes you
> proposed.


Jon,

It appears you misread my note.  What I asked for was that the feedback 
I provided be processed in the usual way it is done in the IETF.

That is:

On 8/8/2016 3:45 PM, Dave Crocker wrote:
> In order to avoid having authors do a guessing game about what will
> resolve questions and concerns, they normally pursue those items on
> the working group's mailing list.


Unless things are done differently in this part of the IETF, it is not 
considered normal IETF process to request working group consensus about 
whether to respond to the details of a review...

But perhaps the word 'respond' is unclear?  In the IETF it means to give 
meaningful responses.  That's quite different from, say, automatically 
expecting suggestions to be agreed to.

d/
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   Dave Crocker
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