Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force

Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Sat, 20 August 2016 22:52 UTC

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Subject: Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force
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On 8/20/16 11:41 AM, DOLLY, MARTIN C wrote:
> Being it is joint effort of ATIS and SIP Forum, if you are a member of either, yes. SIP Forum is quite open. But documents are about to be updated.

I am. I didn't see these among the NNI documents, and didn't find any 
other likely place. Can you supply a URI to where they are?

	Thanks,
	Paul

> -----Original Message-----
> From: stir [mailto:stir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Paul Kyzivat
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 11:18 AM
> To: stir@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force
>
> Martin,
>
> Are these documents (both the SHAKEN stuff and the Display Framework) publicly available?
>
> I looked on the sip forum web site but didn't find them.
>
> 	Thanks,
> 	Paul
>
> On 8/20/16 8:05 AM, DOLLY, MARTIN C wrote:
>> Tony,
>>
>>
>>
>> For deployment in the USA, this ITU work would be totally useless.
>>
>>
>>
>> The ATIS - SIP Forum is has a profile of the IETF STIR RFC drafts in
>> the SHAKEN Framework document.
>>
>> Further, SHAKEN telecom industry framework - Signature-based Handling
>> of Asserted Information using Tokens
>>
>> 1.      Defines the architecture and NNI dependencies around the usage
>> of the PASSporT and 4474bis based framework
>>
>> 2.      Defines the security model around management and usage of
>> certificates used to sign and assert caller identity information
>>
>>
>>
>> In addition, there is a Display Framework document, that defines the
>> requirements for signaling the verification information from the
>> network to the user device and the requirements for what is displayed
>> on the user device independent of technology.
>>
>>
>>
>> Service Requirements to support the above is being brought into the
>> 3GPP
>> SA1 meeting in San Francisco next week, 8/22-26 (Being led by Greg
>> Schumacher, Sprint).
>>
>>
>>
>> I will be bring in a discussion paper and CRs into the October CT1
>> meeting in China with the support of Nokia and Ericsson (and hopefully
>> the other USA companies).
>>
>>
>>
>> WRT display  on the user device, there will be a combination of
>> vendors getting requirements based on the ATIS-SIP Forum Display
>> Framework given to them as part of ecosystem participation in the FCC
>> Strike Force and/or direct requirements from carriers. In addition,
>> further documentation to in GSMA, Cable Labs, etc... specifications may/will occur.
>>
>>
>>
>> Up to now, the coordination has been with the ATIS-SIP Forum
>> co-chairs/leaders and moving forward with the FCC Strike Force
>> Authentication Committee (co-chairs Chris Wendt and myself, so there
>> the transition should be seamless)
>>
>>
>>
>> With the above work plan I do not see a role for the ITU on the Caller
>> ID Spoofing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> *Martin C. Dolly*
>>
>> Lead Member of Technical Staff
>>
>> Core & Government/Regulatory Standards
>>
>> AT&T
>>
>> Cell: +1.609.903.3360
>>
>> Email: _md3135@att.com <mailto:md3135@att.com>_
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:*Tony Rutkowski [mailto:tony@yaanatech.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 4:48 PM
>> *To:* DOLLY, MARTIN C <md3135@att.com>
>> *Cc:* IETF STIR Mail List <stir@ietf.org>; Paul Najarian
>> <NajarianPB@state.gov>
>> *Subject:* Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Martin et al.,
>>
>> It is worth noting that for the
>> upcoming SG17 meeting, China's
>> MIIT, China Unicom, and China mobile
>> have proposed a new work item that
>> is substantially related to stir work.
>> Indeed, the proposal contains a useful comprehensive overview of
>> related SDO activities, including stir, and a gap analysis.
>>
>> I expect that the usdel to the meeting would appreciate any views from
>> the Task Force and stir participants on the contribution.  In
>> addition, how does stir and the IETF anticipate collaborating with
>> SG17 and the other SDOs going forward?
>> The NWI seems almost certain to get approved, and may well be before
>> WTSA 2016.
>>
>> best,
>> --tony
>>
>>
>>
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