Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force
Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Sat, 20 August 2016 22:52 UTC
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From: Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>
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Subject: Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force
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On 8/20/16 11:41 AM, DOLLY, MARTIN C wrote: > Being it is joint effort of ATIS and SIP Forum, if you are a member of either, yes. SIP Forum is quite open. But documents are about to be updated. I am. I didn't see these among the NNI documents, and didn't find any other likely place. Can you supply a URI to where they are? Thanks, Paul > -----Original Message----- > From: stir [mailto:stir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Paul Kyzivat > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 11:18 AM > To: stir@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force > > Martin, > > Are these documents (both the SHAKEN stuff and the Display Framework) publicly available? > > I looked on the sip forum web site but didn't find them. > > Thanks, > Paul > > On 8/20/16 8:05 AM, DOLLY, MARTIN C wrote: >> Tony, >> >> >> >> For deployment in the USA, this ITU work would be totally useless. >> >> >> >> The ATIS - SIP Forum is has a profile of the IETF STIR RFC drafts in >> the SHAKEN Framework document. >> >> Further, SHAKEN telecom industry framework - Signature-based Handling >> of Asserted Information using Tokens >> >> 1. Defines the architecture and NNI dependencies around the usage >> of the PASSporT and 4474bis based framework >> >> 2. Defines the security model around management and usage of >> certificates used to sign and assert caller identity information >> >> >> >> In addition, there is a Display Framework document, that defines the >> requirements for signaling the verification information from the >> network to the user device and the requirements for what is displayed >> on the user device independent of technology. >> >> >> >> Service Requirements to support the above is being brought into the >> 3GPP >> SA1 meeting in San Francisco next week, 8/22-26 (Being led by Greg >> Schumacher, Sprint). >> >> >> >> I will be bring in a discussion paper and CRs into the October CT1 >> meeting in China with the support of Nokia and Ericsson (and hopefully >> the other USA companies). >> >> >> >> WRT display on the user device, there will be a combination of >> vendors getting requirements based on the ATIS-SIP Forum Display >> Framework given to them as part of ecosystem participation in the FCC >> Strike Force and/or direct requirements from carriers. In addition, >> further documentation to in GSMA, Cable Labs, etc... specifications may/will occur. >> >> >> >> Up to now, the coordination has been with the ATIS-SIP Forum >> co-chairs/leaders and moving forward with the FCC Strike Force >> Authentication Committee (co-chairs Chris Wendt and myself, so there >> the transition should be seamless) >> >> >> >> With the above work plan I do not see a role for the ITU on the Caller >> ID Spoofing. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> *Martin C. Dolly* >> >> Lead Member of Technical Staff >> >> Core & Government/Regulatory Standards >> >> AT&T >> >> Cell: +1.609.903.3360 >> >> Email: _md3135@att.com <mailto:md3135@att.com>_ >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:*Tony Rutkowski [mailto:tony@yaanatech.com] >> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 4:48 PM >> *To:* DOLLY, MARTIN C <md3135@att.com> >> *Cc:* IETF STIR Mail List <stir@ietf.org>; Paul Najarian >> <NajarianPB@state.gov> >> *Subject:* Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force >> >> >> >> Hi Martin et al., >> >> It is worth noting that for the >> upcoming SG17 meeting, China's >> MIIT, China Unicom, and China mobile >> have proposed a new work item that >> is substantially related to stir work. >> Indeed, the proposal contains a useful comprehensive overview of >> related SDO activities, including stir, and a gap analysis. >> >> I expect that the usdel to the meeting would appreciate any views from >> the Task Force and stir participants on the contribution. In >> addition, how does stir and the IETF anticipate collaborating with >> SG17 and the other SDOs going forward? >> The NWI seems almost certain to get approved, and may well be before >> WTSA 2016. >> >> best, >> --tony >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> stir mailing list >> stir@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/stir >> > > _______________________________________________ > stir mailing list > stir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/stir >
- Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force Richard Shockey
- Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force DOLLY, MARTIN C
- Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force DOLLY, MARTIN C
- Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force Tony Rutkowski
- Re: [stir] Setting Direction for the STIR WG Last… Dave Crocker
- Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force Tony Rutkowski
- Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force Richard Shockey
- Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force Tony Rutkowski
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- Re: [stir] Setting Direction for the STIR WG Last… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] Setting Direction for the STIR WG Last… Russ Housley
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- Re: [stir] Setting Direction for the STIR WG Last… Dave Crocker
- Re: [stir] Setting Direction for the STIR WG Last… DOLLY, MARTIN C
- Re: [stir] Setting Direction for the STIR WG Last… Dave Crocker
- Re: [stir] Setting Direction for the STIR WG Last… Tony Rutkowski
- Re: [stir] Setting Direction for the STIR WG Last… Brian Rosen
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- Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force DOLLY, MARTIN C
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- Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force Dave Crocker
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- Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force DOLLY, MARTIN C
- Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force Richard Shockey
- Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force Tony Rutkowski
- Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force DOLLY, MARTIN C
- Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force Richard Shockey
- Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [stir] Robocall Strike Force DOLLY, MARTIN C
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