Re: [v6ops] Are we competitive?

Clark Gaylord <cgaylord@vt.edu> Mon, 15 August 2022 10:35 UTC

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From: Clark Gaylord <cgaylord@vt.edu>
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2022 06:35:25 -0400
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To: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Are we competitive?
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Hiding a random 64 bit number??

On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 06:05 Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 08:42:24AM +0000, Vasilenko Eduard wrote:
> > > When it comes to, say, an enterprise network that accesses the
> Internet, preserving the IID is not something that folks will usually be
> interested in -- quite the opposite, I'd say.
> >
> > Why?
>
> Hiding of internal information.
>
> Gert Doering
>         -- NetMaster
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> have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?
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