Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announcement list
Melchior Aelmans <melchior@aelmans.eu> Fri, 24 September 2021 14:11 UTC
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From: Melchior Aelmans <melchior@aelmans.eu>
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2021 16:11:33 +0200
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Subject: Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announcement list
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I think this would be helpful to make sure no important messages are missed. Thanks for the effort! Cheers, Melchior On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 9:27 AM IETF Chair <chair@ietf.org> wrote: > Hi, > > at the moment, ietf-announce is the main announcement list of the IETF, > seeing regular posts from various roles and bodies in the organization, > and from the Datatracker. Over the last year, ietf-announce has seen > around 1200 emails, averaging around 4.6 emails per workday. > > The ietf-announce lists currently distributes the following types of > announcements. All but the first type are automatically generated by > various tools: > > 1. Announcements sent manually by the IETF Chair, the IAB Chair, the > IRTF Chair, the Chair of the LLC Board, the IETF Executive Director, > the NomCom Chair, and the IETF Secretariat > 2. Announcements of new and updated WG charters > 3. WG closure announcements > 4. Announcements of new non-WG mailing lists > 5. Announcements of new RFCs > 6. IESG and LLC telechat announcements > 7. Announcements of document actions > 8. Announcements of IESG conflict-review results > 9. Last call announcements for I-Ds > 10. Interim WG meeting announcements > > The ietf-announce list currently has 3095 subscribers, which is a > fraction of the overall IETF community. Only 961 of these subscribers > have Datatracker accounts; out of 13311 overall Datatracker account > holders. When asking IETF participants about why they are not > subscribed, the volume of email on the list > - especially automatically-generated Datatracker email - is the most often > mentioned reason. > > The IESG is therefore considering creating a new mailing list for > important organizational announcements only. We are hoping that a > subscription to a new low-volume mailing list will be acceptable to > IETF participants that find ietf-announce too noisy, and will help us > disseminate important news and announcements more widely and effectively. > > Here are the details about this proposal: > > * The name of the new mailing list is important-news. > > - The ietf-announce mailing list will continue to operate as-is. > > - Posting rights to important-news are restricted to the same set of > roles as for ietf-announce. > > - All emails sent to important-news will be CC’ed to ietf-announce. > > * Posts > > - important-news will only receive the first type of announcements in > the numbered list above, i.e., important announcements that are > manually sent by various organizational roles. > > - important-news will not receive any of the other types of email sent > to ietf-announce. In the rare case that one of these is of > sufficiently broad community interest to be distributed via > important-news, this will occur as a manual action by one of the > roles authorized to post to important-news. > > * Subscriptions > > - Every participant with a current Datatracker account will be > automatically subscribed to important-news. > > - Every participant creating a new Datatracker account will > automatically be subscribed to important-news. > > - important-news is also open to manual subscriptions to anyone > without a Datatracker account. A welcome message will be sent to > new important-news subscribers, explaining what it’s for and that > we’d hope they stay subscribed. It will also include instructions > or ideally a link for unsubscribing. > > - Any important-news subscriber can unsubscribe at any time. > > The IESG is inviting community feedback to iesg@ietf.org about this > proposal by 7 October 2021. > > Lars Eggert > IETF Chair (on behalf of the IESG) > > _______________________________________________ > IETF-Announce mailing list > IETF-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce >
- Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announcement l… IETF Chair
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Melchior Aelmans
- IETF calendar (was: Re: Proposal: an "important-n… Toerless Eckert
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Bob Hinden
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Christian Huitema
- RE: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Adrian Farrel
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Eliot Lear
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Salz, Rich
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… David Noveck
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Tim Wicinski
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Lucas Pardue
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… John C Klensin
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… tom petch
- Re: [irsg] Proposal: an "important-news" IETF ann… Lars Eggert
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Lars Eggert
- Re: [irsg] Proposal: an "important-news" IETF ann… Lars Eggert
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Lars Eggert
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Eliot Lear
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Lars Eggert
- RE: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… MORTON JR., AL
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Stephen Farrell
- RE: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Eliot Lear
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Carsten Bormann
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Barry Leiba
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Alexey Melnikov
- RE: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… MORTON JR., AL
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Robert Sparks
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Michael Richardson
- RE: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… John C Klensin
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Barry Leiba
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Barry Leiba
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… John C Klensin
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… tom petch
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… tom petch
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Michael Richardson
- making upcoming calendar more useful Michael Richardson
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Jay Daley
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Barry Leiba
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Jay Daley
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Martin Thomson
- Why last calls matter more than ever [Re: Proposa… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: making upcoming calendar more useful John C Klensin
- Re: making upcoming calendar more useful Warren Kumari
- Re: making upcoming calendar more useful Barry Leiba
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… tom petch
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Michael Richardson
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… tom petch
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… John C Klensin
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Michael Richardson
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Robert Sparks
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Michael Richardson
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… John C Klensin
- The links page [was: something else] Brian E Carpenter