Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announcement list

tom petch <daedulus@btconnect.com> Wed, 29 September 2021 16:17 UTC

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Subject: Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announcement list
To: "STARK, BARBARA H" <bs7652@att.com>, 'Alexey Melnikov' <alexey.melnikov@isode.com>, 'Barry Leiba' <barryleiba@computer.org>, 'Lars Eggert' <lars@eggert.org>
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On 29/09/2021 16:14, STARK, BARBARA H wrote:
>>>> 1.  Announcements sent manually by <various roles> = 284
>>>> 2.  Announcements of new and updated WG charters & WG closures = 44
>>>> 3.  (included in above 44)
>>>> 4.  Announcements of new non-WG mailing lists = 13
>>>> 5.  Announcements of new RFCs = 275
>>>> 6.  IESG and LLC telechat announcements = 39
>>>> 7.  Announcements of document actions = 175
>>>> 8.  Announcements of IESG conflict-review results = 14
>>>> 9.  Last call announcements for I-Ds = 174 (+ 4 for other actions)
>>>> 10. Interim WG meeting announcements = 256
>>>>
>>>> The "important-news" proposal would only retain those under (1) above.
>>> I think that 1, 4, and 6 should all be retained as is (and in the new
>>> list, if it's created).
>>>
>>> I think that 2, 5, 7, 8, 9, and 10 should be in a weekly summary, one
>>> single message per week.
>>
>> I have a slight problem with this proposal because if it is implemented
>> it would not be possible to find last call announcements by draft name.
>> I think this is a rather important feature when searching archive.
>>
>> Unfortunately I don't have a solution for this problem.
>
> I thought we were discussing changes to ietf-announce and not last-call. All these emails already exist on the last-call list and don't need to be repeated in their entirety on ietf-announce. A summary email to ietf-announce should be sufficient. Anybody wanting to subscribe to last-call has the ability to do so.


Barbara

I think not.  Last Call announcements from the IESG go to many places 
but not the Last Call list.  I find this odd, raised it as a comment 
when the discussion about whether or not to persist with Last Call list 
but in vain.

Reply to is set to Last Call but that is all

Tom Petch










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