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Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announcement list

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 29 September 2021 21:13 UTC

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Subject: Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announcement list
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 10:12:57 +1300
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On 30-Sep-21 04:07, Michael Richardson wrote:
> 
> Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> wrote:
>     > I think that 2, 5, 7, 8, 9, and 10 should be in a weekly summary, one
>     > single message per week.
> 
> Mailman has a digest mode.  Would that suffice?

No, because from observation, most people who reply to a digest don't change the Subject to a useful string. This would be disastrous for Last Call workflows in particular.

   Brian

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