Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announcement list

Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org> Wed, 29 September 2021 12:11 UTC

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Subject: Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announcement list
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 15:11:31 +0300
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Hi,

On 2021-9-27, at 18:36, Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> wrote:
> In an admirable effort to be transparent, we have inundated this list in particular with data.  We now need to take the time to reduce that data  to usable information.  Please take another swing.

the IESG certainly could. But I'm also pretty convinced that whatever proposal we came up with would get improved by the community pretty immediately.

So maybe we could try the opposite, and see if the community has some consensus on what information they would like to retain on ietf-announce, under the assumption that that would then remain our lists for broad announcements.

For reference, here's again the list of posting classes that currently go there, and the count of messages in each class in the last year:

1.  Announcements sent manually by <various roles> = 284
2.  Announcements of new and updated WG charters & WG closures = 44
3.  (included in above 44)
4.  Announcements of new non-WG mailing lists =	13
5.  Announcements of new RFCs =	275
6.  IESG and LLC telechat announcements = 39
7.  Announcements of document actions = 175
8.  Announcements of IESG conflict-review results = 14
9.  Last call announcements for I-Ds = 174 (+ 4 for other actions)
10. Interim WG meeting announcements = 256

The "important-news" proposal would only retain those under (1) above. (We could have a conversation if some of those could also be moved elsewhere, but that's maybe a separate discussion.)

For any type of posting we'd remove, we could of course create a new list, so that the information was still shared. I understand that when we move to mailman3, we'll get a much better web-based subscription interface that will make managing subscriptions much more straightforward.

Thanks,
Lars