Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announcement list
Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org> Wed, 29 September 2021 12:11 UTC
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Subject: Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announcement list
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 15:11:31 +0300
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Hi, On 2021-9-27, at 18:36, Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> wrote: > In an admirable effort to be transparent, we have inundated this list in particular with data. We now need to take the time to reduce that data to usable information. Please take another swing. the IESG certainly could. But I'm also pretty convinced that whatever proposal we came up with would get improved by the community pretty immediately. So maybe we could try the opposite, and see if the community has some consensus on what information they would like to retain on ietf-announce, under the assumption that that would then remain our lists for broad announcements. For reference, here's again the list of posting classes that currently go there, and the count of messages in each class in the last year: 1. Announcements sent manually by <various roles> = 284 2. Announcements of new and updated WG charters & WG closures = 44 3. (included in above 44) 4. Announcements of new non-WG mailing lists = 13 5. Announcements of new RFCs = 275 6. IESG and LLC telechat announcements = 39 7. Announcements of document actions = 175 8. Announcements of IESG conflict-review results = 14 9. Last call announcements for I-Ds = 174 (+ 4 for other actions) 10. Interim WG meeting announcements = 256 The "important-news" proposal would only retain those under (1) above. (We could have a conversation if some of those could also be moved elsewhere, but that's maybe a separate discussion.) For any type of posting we'd remove, we could of course create a new list, so that the information was still shared. I understand that when we move to mailman3, we'll get a much better web-based subscription interface that will make managing subscriptions much more straightforward. Thanks, Lars
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- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Bob Hinden
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Christian Huitema
- RE: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Adrian Farrel
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Eliot Lear
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Salz, Rich
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… David Noveck
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Tim Wicinski
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Lucas Pardue
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… John C Klensin
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… tom petch
- Re: [irsg] Proposal: an "important-news" IETF ann… Lars Eggert
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Lars Eggert
- Re: [irsg] Proposal: an "important-news" IETF ann… Lars Eggert
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Lars Eggert
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Eliot Lear
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Lars Eggert
- RE: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… MORTON JR., AL
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Stephen Farrell
- RE: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Eliot Lear
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Carsten Bormann
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Barry Leiba
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Alexey Melnikov
- RE: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… MORTON JR., AL
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Robert Sparks
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Michael Richardson
- RE: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… John C Klensin
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Barry Leiba
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Barry Leiba
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… John C Klensin
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… tom petch
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… tom petch
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Michael Richardson
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- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Jay Daley
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Barry Leiba
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Jay Daley
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Martin Thomson
- Why last calls matter more than ever [Re: Proposa… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: making upcoming calendar more useful John C Klensin
- Re: making upcoming calendar more useful Warren Kumari
- Re: making upcoming calendar more useful Barry Leiba
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… tom petch
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Michael Richardson
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… tom petch
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… John C Klensin
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Michael Richardson
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Robert Sparks
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… Michael Richardson
- Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announceme… John C Klensin
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