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Andrew Campling <andrew.campling@419.consulting> Wed, 16 February 2022 17:09 UTC

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From: Andrew Campling <andrew.campling@419.consulting>
To: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>, Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola=40open-xchange.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [113attendees] IETF 113 Update: 2022-02-10
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> On Feb 16, 2022, at 16:45, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote:
> Further, a decision may be needed for each working group.  For example, if the chair(s) and responsible AD are not going to be in Vienna, it might be better to not hold a hybrid w.g. meeting and make it all virtual.

Having a mixture of hybrid and virtual sessions within the meeting would not be a great way forward.  The meeting FAQs at https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/113/faq/ already addresses remote participation by chairs.

"Will session chairs be required to participate in person?
No. Onsite participation is not required for anyone, including session chairs. Chairs will be able to use Meetecho to chair their sessions remotely. Training sessions and online guides will be available ahead of the meeting for remote chairs, and advance preparation is highly encouraged. More information will be provided as details are set."


Andrew

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