Re: [113attendees] IETF 113 Update: 2022-02-10

Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Wed, 23 February 2022 14:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: [113attendees] IETF 113 Update: 2022-02-10
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Le 21/02/2022 à 17:16, Petr Špaček a écrit :
> On 21. 02. 22 16:53, Jan Zorz - Go6 wrote:
>> On 21/02/2022 15:25, Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
>>> Without wishing to start a debate, the combination of Mask, 
>>> Disinfection,
>>> Distancing and Vaccination/Booster is reasonably effective and easy 
>>> to do.
>>
>> agreed.
>>
>> In theory it would work, but if just 20% of people is doing that in 
>> reality -
>> then the restrictions doesn't matter anymore.
>
> Pretty please stop discussing epidemiology on this list.
>
> IETF is not a group of epidemiology experts.
>
> If someone on this is interested in effects of non-compliance on 
> spread of Covid-19 then please go to scientific sources and read how 
> non-compliance is incorporated in epidemiology models and how it 
> affects model predictions.


I would go look there if you give me a pointer?

But, I have some doubt about current epidemiology models because never 
have they faced such a large scale.

For example, as far as I know in my non-professional knowledge, there is 
no spread model for the normal flu, which indeed affects large populations.

Alex