Re: [113attendees] IETF 113 Update: 2022-02-10

Petr Špaček <pspacek@isc.org> Mon, 21 February 2022 16:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: [113attendees] IETF 113 Update: 2022-02-10
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On 21. 02. 22 16:53, Jan Zorz - Go6 wrote:
> On 21/02/2022 15:25, Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
>> Without wishing to start a debate, the combination of Mask, Disinfection,
>> Distancing and Vaccination/Booster is reasonably effective and easy to do.
> 
> agreed.
> 
> In theory it would work, but if just 20% of people is doing that in reality -
> then the restrictions doesn't matter anymore.

Pretty please stop discussing epidemiology on this list.

IETF is not a group of epidemiology experts.

If someone on this is interested in effects of non-compliance on spread 
of Covid-19 then please go to scientific sources and read how 
non-compliance is incorporated in epidemiology models and how it affects 
model predictions.

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Petr Špaček