Re: [Diversity] Participation in active IETF work

Pranesh Prakash <pranesh@cis-india.org> Tue, 26 April 2016 10:50 UTC

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Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> [2016-04-19 06:40:27 -0700]:
> If the IETF did most or all of its work at face to face meetings, your
> assessment would be correct.  But it doesn't.  Or at least, it is not
> supposed to.

It would be great if the theory could be put to the test by cancelling 
all IETF meetings for two years and seeing if that impacts IETF work.

If IETF work would hardly be affected, then yes, the theory holds.  If 
that is not true, perhaps it is time we revised the theory?

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