Re: [Diversity] [Mentoring-coordinators] Participation in active IETF work (was: Interim step on meetings site feedback for sites currently under active consideration)

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Subject: Re: [Diversity] [Mentoring-coordinators] Participation in active IETF work (was: Interim step on meetings site feedback for sites currently under active consideration)
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 Dave

  
On 4/19/2016 7:20 AM, nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com wrote:
> 1.  Internet draft review teams (already started)
..
> 3.  Internet draft critique teams (will start time after next!)  Help
> people who have a draft make it better.


>Nalini,

>Can you clarify the difference between these two activities?  In the 
>IETF, 'review' usually involves critical analysis.

>My guess is that you intend the two efforts to come at different times 
>and to have people who differ in their relationship to the document 
>development process.  But that's just a guess and it's not very specific.
 Yes.  I think I need a different name for the activity #3.
What I was thinking is:
3.  Internet Draft Author Assistance:  The team will help an author who is due to present at an upcoming IETF.  etc, etc.

But, as I think more, we probably need a step in between, as in:
3.  Internet Draft Author Assistance: Phase 1:  The team will help an author who has a draft but does not have an agenda slot.  The group will help the author solidify his / her ideas, see where there are holes in the logic, etc.

4.  Internet Draft Author Assistance: Phase 2:  The team will help an author who is due to present at an upcoming IETF.  etc, etc

Nalini