Re: [dmarc-ietf] Forensic report loops are a problem

Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> Mon, 01 February 2021 18:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Forensic report loops are a problem
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On 2/1/21 10:08 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
> On Mon 01/Feb/2021 17:38:07 +0100 Dave Crocker wrote:
>>
>> Consider the challenges to ensuring a DMARC pass.  That's a pretty 
>> high barrier to entry against generating reports.
>
>
> Well, if a mail site is unable to get a DMARC pass, they have more 
> urgent problems to solve than setting up aggregate report generation.
>
+1

Mike