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Re: [dmarc-ietf] Forensic report loops are a problem

Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> Tue, 02 February 2021 00:09 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Forensic report loops are a problem
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On 2/1/21 3:21 PM, John Levine wrote:
> In article <9aea1615-64a5-a310-b8c7-83ec0c316dae@gmail.com> you write:
>> -=-=-=-=-=-
>>
>> On 2/1/2021 10:08 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>>> On Mon 01/Feb/2021 17:38:07 +0100 Dave Crocker wrote:
>>>> Consider the challenges to ensuring a DMARC pass.  That's a pretty
>>>> high barrier to entry against generating reports.
>>> Well, if a mail site is unable to get a DMARC pass, they have more
>>> urgent problems to solve than setting up aggregate report generation.
>>
>> No, they probably don't have more urgent problems. Sites choose not to
>> adopt DMARC for a variety of reasons. It's probably a good idea to
>> respect that variety.
>>
>> The model that a receiving site is not allowed to report DMARC traffic
>> unless that site is also generating DMARC authentication is
>> Procrustean.  And as I noted, is likely counter-productive.
> Ah, we have a semantic question.  I consider a message with p=none to be aligned.

This is why that paragraph needs to be made a (sub) section stating its 
motivation and done in terms of what the requirements are on the sender 
and the receiver of the report. It has nothing at all to with the DMARC 
protocol. That's what I tried to clarify in #98.

Mike

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