Re: Should a nameserver know about itself?

Sam Trenholme <namedroppers@artemas.reachin.com> Thu, 10 May 2001 20:47 UTC

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From: Sam Trenholme <namedroppers@artemas.reachin.com>
To: Jim Reid <Jim.Reid@nominum.com>
cc: Mark.Andrews@nominum.com, Bruce Campbell <bruce.campbell@apnic.net>, dnsop@cafax.se
Subject: Re: Should a nameserver know about itself?
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>     Mark> 	Send it a non-recursive query.  A nameserver should
>     Mark> always answer even if it is just a header containing
>     Mark> refused, servfail or notimp.
>
> Yes, but there is one notorious DNS implementation that doesn't do
> that. It fails to return any answer -- not even a referral for . -- if
> it's asked for a name that it isn't authoritative for.

Fortunatly, his other suggestion about sending a status opcode will get a
"not implemented" response from the "nortorious implementation" in
question.

The only DNS server I know about that has version out there that don't
correctly handle the "status" opcode is my own implentation of a DNS
server.  It used to handle a status query like a normal query.  In fact,
Mark's posting made me realize that my implementation had this problem.
In light of his posting, I just released a new bugfix release because of
this issue.

- Sam