Re: [Ideas] WG Review: IDentity Enabled Networks (ideas)

Padma Pillay-Esnault <padma.ietf@gmail.com> Sat, 07 October 2017 03:38 UTC

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From: Padma Pillay-Esnault <padma.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 20:38:10 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Ideas] WG Review: IDentity Enabled Networks (ideas)
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On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 2:32 AM, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
wrote:

>
> <snip>
> It is not at all clear that that would
> be even relevant if one wanted to build the kind of all
> encompassing IdPs envisaged in the ideas charter/draft.
> <snip>
>


What kind of all encompassing IdPs is being referred to above? The charter
does not propose to build such an all encompassing system.


The charter refers to a mapping system for Id/Loc protocols. The data is
routing information. It may have some limited information if useful for
routing purposes - such as the list of locators, groupings and so on.


Today, routing information of this nature in mapping systems is not hidden.
All nodes in ID/Loc protocols typically access this information for
encapsulation, translation or forwarding decisions without any restrictions
(within their instance/scope).


One of the goals is to be able to authenticate and have access-control on
the lookups if so desired.  This functionality should enhance privacy on
revealing locators of nodes.


For example, you may want to advertise the location of some of  your mobile
IoT nodes in a factory on a need to know basis. The solution proposed here
is one of them.


To address your concerns: no all encompassing system, or humans involved
here.


Padma