Re: Proposed New Note Well
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Tue, 22 March 2016 00:53 UTC
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Subject: Re: Proposed New Note Well
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Hi. This version seems innocuous, however, the two clarification suggestions below might be significant. --On Monday, March 21, 2016 09:51 -0700 IESG Secretary <iesg-secretary@ietf.org> wrote: > Previously, the IESG and IAOC legal team asked the IETF > community for feedback [1] regarding new Note Well text. > Based on the feedback received, the proposed Note Well text > has been revised. >... > The IESG will make a decision about this matter shortly. > Please provide comments, if any, to ietf@ietf.org or to the > IESG at iesg@ietf.org before April 8, 2016. >... > Note Well > > This is a reminder of IETF policies in effect on various > topics such as patents or code of conduct. It is only meant > to point you in the right direction. Exceptions may apply. Exceptions to what? The direction in which the Note Well points? (Probably not). The list of BCPs at the bottom? (Few of them allow for exceptions even when they allow for case-by-case handling). I think you either need to drop that sentence as confusing or to replace it by something that explains what the relevant exceptions are about and how they happen or are requested and processed. Or you could just reiterate in some way that anyone who treats a narrow reading of the "Note Well" text as definitive is likely to find themselves in trouble. >... > Definitive information is in the documents listed below and > other IETF BCPs. For advice, please talk to WG chairs or ADs: That replaces text that traditional says, more or less, "talk with your own lawyer". Is the expectation now that the WG Chairs or ADs are to give out corresponding (and binding) legal advice? john
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- Re: Proposed New Note Well John C Klensin
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Doug Ewell
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Scott O. Bradner
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- Re: Proposed New Note Well John C Klensin
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Scott O. Bradner
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Mark Nottingham
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Dave Cridland
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Stephan Wenger
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