Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 ULA registry]

Philip Homburg <pch-ipv6-ietf-7@u-1.phicoh.com> Mon, 14 December 2020 14:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: For whom is IPv6? [was: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 ULA registry]
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> To name a few networks I am aware of that use ULA and have their
> own registries:
> 
> - DN42 (https://dn42.eu/home) - Freifunk (https://freifunk.net/)
> - Anonet (http://anonet.org/)
> 
> If either of these networks would join the others, there would be
> ULA collisions today.
> 
> > Or is the thing that they want GUAs that are free of the charges RIRs
> > normally charge for them?
> 
> The requirement is mainly uniqueness. Services like whois and rDNS
> are very welcome from an operational point of view as well. Internet
> routing is not required - for this we can use GUA.

Why not collect some funds and become an LIR in the RIPE region? 

Then you can have reverse DNS. And if you put it in an independent non-profit
it can also outlive the people who started it.