Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 ULA registry

Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> Wed, 09 December 2020 13:48 UTC

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Subject: Re: Happy St Nicholas Day: Re-Launching the IPv6 ULA registry
To: Nico Schottelius <nico.schottelius@ungleich.ch>
Cc: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>, IPv6 List <ipv6@ietf.org>
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Nico,

To paraphrase what Ted said: "This is fundamentally harmful.  Please 
don't do it."

Nick

Nico Schottelius wrote on 09/12/2020 10:42:
> Hey Ted,
>
> Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> writes:
>> [...]
>> Because of how they [ULAs] are created, ULAs do not admit of such an
>> authoritative list.
>> [...]
> I understand your point and I think the whole ULA discussion could
> instantly be stopped, iif everyone had easy access to free IPv6 address
> space. As far as I can see PI space is not an option because of the
> current high administrative challenges (both as LIR and as a requestor).
>
> On the danger of going down the rabbit hole, I propose that ungleich
> provides an open source, open data, for-free ULA registry (*) using the
> fc00::/8 prefix that has been discussed before as centrally managed.
>
> This way there is no conflict with self assignment / self managed
> fd00::/8 range and neither the data nor the implementation is locked to
> stay with ungleich in the future in case
> IETF/IANA/any-of-the-five-RIRs/$other_org wants to take over.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Nico
>
> (*) The source code is already open source, usage is for free already,
> however so far there is no automated data export, which we could
> implement on a CSV basis and automatically update once per day.
>
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