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Re: [Ntp] NTPv5: big picture

Daniel Franke <dfoxfranke@gmail.com> Tue, 05 January 2021 16:09 UTC

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From: Daniel Franke <dfoxfranke@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 11:09:39 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Ntp] NTPv5: big picture
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On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 11:00 AM James Browning <jamesb.fe80@gmail.com>
wrote:

> My shortlist is to shift the epoch to 2020, (a)symmetric authentication
> to extensions, and the timescale to TAI based not UTC based.
>

Can we have something less cursed? The engineers of our civil calendar
chose the birth of their savior, and you want to choose *2020*?

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