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Re: [rtcweb] Payload Types assignments was Re: SV: [mmusic] WGLC of draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and-requirements-11

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Martin Thomson wrote:
> On 11 October 2013 04:05, Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> wrote:
>> .. http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-discovery-api-20130924/ ..
>>
>> describes a proposal for how to find objects on the local net (currently:
>> announced via upnp and zeroconf), and
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/netinfo-api/
>>
>> describes a proposal for getting some information about how you're 
>> connected to the network.
>
> Those solutions may not be appropriate for use in web browsers, in much the same way that the "raw sockets" API is not.
Netinfo-api is implemented in Firefox (with a moz prefix). It could be extended to match the use cases I described.

WD-discovery-api is wonderfully flexible, but probably too scary for the user:
"example.com wants to scan you network for all TVs, printers, routers, TURN-Servers: Deny/Allow?"
I guess that's the reason why no browser supports it.



Wolfgang

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