Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions....
Randell Jesup <randell-ietf@jesup.org> Wed, 10 December 2014 21:58 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions....
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On 12/9/2014 3:10 PM, Bernard Aboba wrote: > David Singer said: > > "I am trying to find out a simple answer: how many endpoints would, > in fact, expect to support both codecs?" > > [BA] The proposal has built-in incentives for implementers in each > category to either ignore the recommendations or ignore > interoperability (or both). > > As it stands, the proposal doesn't require that "WebRTC-compatible > endpoints" support either H.264 or VP8. I understand why an endpoint > not supporting video shouldn't have to, but if the WebRTC-compatible > endpoint does support video, why shouldn't it support at least one of > the MTI codecs? The way it is written a WebRTC-compatible endpoint > that supported only H.261 would be compliant while being able to > communicate with either browsers or non-browsers, which seems silly. I've seen a device that supports webrtc but can't reasonably handle VP8 or H.264, but can run an implementation of H.261, so this really exists. I wouldn't call it great, but it's not non-sensical. As mentioned, Firefox as shipping (for months now) in release supports H.264 and VP8 (and perhaps more soon). -- Randell Jesup -- rjesup a t mozilla d o t com
- [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Sergio Garcia Murillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... David Singer
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Gaelle Martin-Cocher
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... cowwoc
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... tim panton
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Simon Perreault
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... tim panton
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Adam Roach
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Gustavo Garcia
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... cowwoc
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Sergio Garcia Murillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Simon Perreault
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... cowwoc
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... cowwoc
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... David Singer
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Cavigioli, Chris
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Cavigioli, Chris
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Adam Roach
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... David Singer
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Mohammed Raad
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... David Singer
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Mohammed Raad
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Silvia Pfeiffer
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... David Singer
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Adam Roach
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Ron
- [rtcweb] Incentives (Re: Video codecs: Clear posi… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Alexandre GOUAILLARD
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Richard Barnes
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Peter Saint-Andre - &yet
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Ron