Re: [rtcweb] Solutions sought for non-ICE RTC calls, not +1 (Re: Requiring ICE for RTC calls)

Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> Wed, 28 September 2011 08:33 UTC

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2011/9/28 Matthew Kaufman <matthew.kaufman@skype.net>:
> ICE needs to be a MUST. Debate is still going on support (or not) for plain
> RTP.

After all these threads, now I strongly consider that ICE should be a MUST.

But I don't think the same for SRTP. I don't consider that content
carried via plain RTP is more important than content carried via HTTP,
and AFAIK HTTPS is not a requirement in RFC 2616, neither in any web
browser.

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Iñaki Baz Castillo
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