Re: [sidr] WGLC draft-sidr-rpki-rtr - take 2?

Robert Raszuk <raszuk@cisco.com> Mon, 06 June 2011 11:17 UTC

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Subject: Re: [sidr] WGLC draft-sidr-rpki-rtr - take 2?
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Hi Hannes,

> privacy is not of concern;

Are you really sure about that ?

One of the deployment models I have heard is the remote reception of 
prefixes/origins pairs which are found to be invalid by for example 
subscribing to CYMRU database.

If I would pay $20 per month for such feed which will relax me from even 
keeping a local RPKI cache in my network why would I not be concern that 
you will intercept my feed and use it without paying CYMRU?

Cheers,
R.