Re: [Drip] ADSB(Internet mail)

[Robert Moskowitz <[e-mail]>]

Shuai,

That was an 'or' question.  My bad.

I don't see urban delivery UA, even rural (I have seen the UPS demo) 
using ADSB.  I even question air-taxis, other than if they want to make 
runs to the airport, they will probably require it.

Local delivery UA are already so power starved, severely impacting their 
range (why UPS has them serviced from their trucks).

On 7/30/20 6:43 AM, shuaiizhao(Shuai Zhao) wrote:
> Yes, as well as drones with military purpose,  that’s my understanding.
>
> -SZ iPhone
> Please forgive any typos
>
>
>> On Jul 30, 2020, at 03:23, Robert Moskowitz 
>> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>  By "commercial drones" do you mean what a delivery service would 
>> use or a long-haul freight (Rhaegal) and air-taxis (UAM)?
>>
>> On 7/30/20 5:49 AM, shuaiizhao(Shuai Zhao) wrote:
>>>
>>> Just to echo Stu on the ADSB, AFAIK, ADSB will  not be feasible for 
>>> most of the drones mostly due to SwaP, commercial drones might be 
>>> exception.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Shuai Zhao
>>>
>>> *From: *Tm-rid <[e-mail]> on behalf of "Stuart W. 
>>> Card" <[e-mail]>
>>> *Date: *Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 19:46
>>> *To: *"[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
>>> *Subject: *[Drip] ADSB (was: Review of draft-drip-arch-02 w.r.t. 
>>> RFC6973, RFC8280 and other)(Internet mail)
>>>
>>> Sorry for the slow reply.
>>>
>>> ADS-B is gradually being mandated for essentially all manned aircraft.
>>>
>>> ADSB-In and ADSB-Out are mandated for airliners: -In gives their pilots
>>>
>>> some Situational Awareness (SA) of other aircraft; -Out gives other
>>>
>>> pilots SA of the airliners.
>>>
>>> "ADSB-Out" is mandated even for small general aviation aircraft: it does
>>>
>>> not directly benefit the pilots of those aircraft; but by providing SA
>>>
>>> to others, it indirectly benefits all.
>>>
>>> ADSB is _not_ going to be deployed on large numbers of small UAS as it
>>>
>>> would overwhelm the limited bandwidth available at those lower radio
>>>
>>> frequencies (which propagate long ranges). In fact, it is expected to be
>>>
>>> explicitly prohibited in the US per the FAA NPRM; I suspect most of the
>>>
>>> rest of the world will do likewise.
>>>
>>> ADSB is also altogether insecure.
>>>
>>> On 7/9/2020 3:02 AM, Alexandre Petrescu wrote:
>>>
>>>     ...
>>>
>>>     They call it "ADS-B Receivers" (Automatic Dependent Surveillance -
>>>
>>>     Broadcast).
>>>
>>>     I wouuld like to ask if there is a packet dump available showing
>>>     such
>>>
>>>     presence data form planes?  Maybe wireshark already supports it,
>>>     maybe
>>>
>>>     it even dissects it...
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Stuart W. Card, PhD, Principal Engineer
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
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