Re: [tsvwg] Review comments on a careful read of the L4S ID (27. Appx B & C)
Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk> Fri, 14 May 2021 15:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] Review comments on a careful read of the L4S ID (27. Appx B & C)
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On 14/05/2021 16:09, Bob Briscoe wrote: > Chairs, Martin, > See [BB] > ACK. That seems like a good plan, and was what we discussed. Gorry > On 06/05/2021 07:52, Gorry Fairhurst wrote: >> >> ================================================================= >> *27. Appendix B and C >> * >> ⁃Appendix B is lengthy, at best loosely connected with the rest of >> the draft, definitely out of date, and not aligned with current WG >> views of this area. This appendix can be removed prior to >> publication. Appendix C is unecessary to the final publication. >> ================================================================= > > [BB] Offlist discussion with the chairs and Martin has come up with > the solution of deleting the sub-sections of these appendices that are > not referenced from the rest of the draft, but keeping those that are. > > B.1 is referenced from the body of the draft a couple of times, > because it's the pros and cons of the chosen scheme. > C.1 is referenced from the security considerations. > > So I'm planning on promoting B.1 to B, and C.1 to C. > But I'll take out the remainder of B and C, and change the > introductory context of each. > > For reference, here's the end of the ToC as it stands before the > proposed edits: > > Appendix B <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id#appendix-B>. Alternative Identifiers . . . . . . . . . . . . . .46 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id#page-46> > B.1 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id#appendix-B.1>. ECT(1) and CE codepoints . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .47 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id#page-47> > B.2 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id#appendix-B.2>. ECN-DualQ-SCE1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .51 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id#page-51> > B.3 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id#appendix-B.3>. ECN-DualQ-SCE0 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .54 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id#page-54> > B.4 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id#appendix-B.4>. ECN Plus a Diffserv Codepoint (DSCP) . . . . . . . . . .56 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id#page-56> > B.5 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id#appendix-B.5>. ECN capability alone . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .58 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id#page-58> > B.6 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id#appendix-B.6>. Protocol ID . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .58 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id#page-58> > B.7 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id#appendix-B.7>. Source or destination addressing . . . . . . . . . . . .59 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id#page-59> > B.8 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id#appendix-B.8>. Summary: Merits of Alternative Identifiers . . . . . . .59 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id#page-59> > Appendix C <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id#appendix-C>. Potential Competing Uses for the ECT(1) Codepoint . 60 > C.1 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id#appendix-C.1>. Integrity of Congestion Feedback . . . . . . . . . . . .60 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id#page-60> > C.2 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id#appendix-C.2>. Notification of Less Severe Congestion than CE . . . . .61 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id#page-61> > > > Bob > > -- > ________________________________________________________________ > Bob Briscoehttp://bobbriscoe.net/
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