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Re: [tsvwg] Review comments on a careful read of the L4S ID (27. Appx B & C)

"Black, David" <David.Black@dell.com> Fri, 14 May 2021 20:41 UTC

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From: "Black, David" <David.Black@dell.com>
To: Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>, Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk>
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This is a good approach - I agree with Gorry and Martin.  Thanks, --David

From: Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 1:33 PM
To: Gorry Fairhurst
Cc: Bob Briscoe; Black, David; Wesley Eddy; tsvwg@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [tsvwg] Review comments on a careful read of the L4S ID (27. Appx B & C)

SGTM

On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 8:46 AM Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk<mailto:gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk>> wrote:
On 14/05/2021 16:09, Bob Briscoe wrote:
Chairs, Martin,
See [BB]

ACK.

That seems like a good plan, and was what we discussed.

Gorry
On 06/05/2021 07:52, Gorry Fairhurst wrote:
=================================================================
27. Appendix B and C

⁃            Appendix B is lengthy, at best loosely connected with the rest of the draft, definitely out of date, and not aligned with current WG views of this area. This appendix can be removed prior to publication. Appendix C is unecessary to the final publication.
 =================================================================

[BB] Offlist discussion with the chairs and Martin has come up with the solution of deleting the sub-sections of these appendices that are not referenced from the rest of the draft, but keeping those that are.

B.1 is referenced from the body of the draft a couple of times, because it's the pros and cons of the chosen scheme.
C.1 is referenced from the security considerations.

So I'm planning on promoting B.1 to B, and C.1 to C.
But I'll take out the remainder of B and C, and change the introductory context of each.

For reference, here's the end of the ToC as it stands before the proposed edits:

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     B.2 [datatracker.ietf.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id*appendix-B.2__;Iw!!LpKI!yiN9x6gFkQ-F9vMztrvCBAuLhKGnQCG2jTiC5vGE4Bc63eBgTtCbxKpVQ2XxQ8wo$>.  ECN-DualQ-SCE1  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  51 [datatracker.ietf.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id*page-51__;Iw!!LpKI!yiN9x6gFkQ-F9vMztrvCBAuLhKGnQCG2jTiC5vGE4Bc63eBgTtCbxKpVQyelDoYl$>

     B.3 [datatracker.ietf.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id*appendix-B.3__;Iw!!LpKI!yiN9x6gFkQ-F9vMztrvCBAuLhKGnQCG2jTiC5vGE4Bc63eBgTtCbxKpVQwfULdT3$>.  ECN-DualQ-SCE0  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  54 [datatracker.ietf.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id*page-54__;Iw!!LpKI!yiN9x6gFkQ-F9vMztrvCBAuLhKGnQCG2jTiC5vGE4Bc63eBgTtCbxKpVQy_br1jM$>

     B.4 [datatracker.ietf.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id*appendix-B.4__;Iw!!LpKI!yiN9x6gFkQ-F9vMztrvCBAuLhKGnQCG2jTiC5vGE4Bc63eBgTtCbxKpVQ6MLannR$>.  ECN Plus a Diffserv Codepoint (DSCP)  . . . . . . . . . .  56 [datatracker.ietf.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id*page-56__;Iw!!LpKI!yiN9x6gFkQ-F9vMztrvCBAuLhKGnQCG2jTiC5vGE4Bc63eBgTtCbxKpVQ64Rhzca$>

     B.5 [datatracker.ietf.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id*appendix-B.5__;Iw!!LpKI!yiN9x6gFkQ-F9vMztrvCBAuLhKGnQCG2jTiC5vGE4Bc63eBgTtCbxKpVQ0gamkn7$>.  ECN capability alone  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  58 [datatracker.ietf.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id*page-58__;Iw!!LpKI!yiN9x6gFkQ-F9vMztrvCBAuLhKGnQCG2jTiC5vGE4Bc63eBgTtCbxKpVQ3Szy7v_$>

     B.6 [datatracker.ietf.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id*appendix-B.6__;Iw!!LpKI!yiN9x6gFkQ-F9vMztrvCBAuLhKGnQCG2jTiC5vGE4Bc63eBgTtCbxKpVQ5cRVsMD$>.  Protocol ID . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  58 [datatracker.ietf.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id*page-58__;Iw!!LpKI!yiN9x6gFkQ-F9vMztrvCBAuLhKGnQCG2jTiC5vGE4Bc63eBgTtCbxKpVQ3Szy7v_$>

     B.7 [datatracker.ietf.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id*appendix-B.7__;Iw!!LpKI!yiN9x6gFkQ-F9vMztrvCBAuLhKGnQCG2jTiC5vGE4Bc63eBgTtCbxKpVQ8lCv0zk$>.  Source or destination addressing  . . . . . . . . . . . .  59 [datatracker.ietf.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id*page-59__;Iw!!LpKI!yiN9x6gFkQ-F9vMztrvCBAuLhKGnQCG2jTiC5vGE4Bc63eBgTtCbxKpVQyB5VPQU$>

     B.8 [datatracker.ietf.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id*appendix-B.8__;Iw!!LpKI!yiN9x6gFkQ-F9vMztrvCBAuLhKGnQCG2jTiC5vGE4Bc63eBgTtCbxKpVQ3HQm7eU$>.  Summary: Merits of Alternative Identifiers  . . . . . . .  59 [datatracker.ietf.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id*page-59__;Iw!!LpKI!yiN9x6gFkQ-F9vMztrvCBAuLhKGnQCG2jTiC5vGE4Bc63eBgTtCbxKpVQyB5VPQU$>

   Appendix C [datatracker.ietf.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id*appendix-C__;Iw!!LpKI!yiN9x6gFkQ-F9vMztrvCBAuLhKGnQCG2jTiC5vGE4Bc63eBgTtCbxKpVQ6okbzfI$>.  Potential Competing Uses for the ECT(1) Codepoint  .  60

     C.1 [datatracker.ietf.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id*appendix-C.1__;Iw!!LpKI!yiN9x6gFkQ-F9vMztrvCBAuLhKGnQCG2jTiC5vGE4Bc63eBgTtCbxKpVQ_Woa064$>.  Integrity of Congestion Feedback  . . . . . . . . . . . .  60 [datatracker.ietf.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id*page-60__;Iw!!LpKI!yiN9x6gFkQ-F9vMztrvCBAuLhKGnQCG2jTiC5vGE4Bc63eBgTtCbxKpVQ15ZU4t1$>

     C.2 [datatracker.ietf.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id*appendix-C.2__;Iw!!LpKI!yiN9x6gFkQ-F9vMztrvCBAuLhKGnQCG2jTiC5vGE4Bc63eBgTtCbxKpVQ_pHcpIM$>.  Notification of Less Severe Congestion than CE  . . . . .  61 [datatracker.ietf.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id*page-61__;Iw!!LpKI!yiN9x6gFkQ-F9vMztrvCBAuLhKGnQCG2jTiC5vGE4Bc63eBgTtCbxKpVQ5kdaXEm$>


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