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Re: [v4v6interim] [46translation] [BEHAVE] Proposal for new BEHAVE charter

Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com> Mon, 20 October 2008 21:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v4v6interim] [46translation] [BEHAVE] Proposal for new BEHAVE charter
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On Oct 20, 2008, at 7:21 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:

> Of course the IETF could also come out and say that it will not  
> accommodate any type of IPv6 NAT.

That will travel about one meter and nose-dive. Remember the IETF  
being deluded into thinking that if it didn't work on lawful intercept  
the problem would go away?

Good solutions help, like what RFC 4864 tries to be. Delusional  
thinking and rants about what we don't like don't help.
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