Re: WG meeting structure

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Wed, 15 May 2019 14:02 UTC

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STARK, BARBARA H <bs7652@att.com> wrote:
    > Engaged discussion to resolve open technical issues is hard to do in
    > rooms with 100+ people. Interim meetings, "unstructured time" meetings
    > (using WebEx and an iPad-as-speakerphone for remote participants),
    > working on topics that "the masses" don't care about, etc. are often
    > the best way to get such engaged discussion.

Doctor, Doctor, it's hurts when I try to resolve technical issues in a room
with 100+ people....

So, why do we keep trying to do this? It doesn't work any better with the
speakers at the front.  That is, we don't resolve issues any faster.
(Sure, the audio might be better)

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