Re: WG meeting structure

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Wed, 15 May 2019 01:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: WG meeting structure
From: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>
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Pete,



> On May 14, 2019, at 4:14 PM, Pete Resnick <resnick@episteme.net> wrote:
> 
> …..
> 
>             +------+
>             |screen|
>             +------+
>  X  X  X  O +-+  +-+ O  X  X  X
>  X  X  X  O | |  | | O  X  X  X
>  X  X  X  O |T|  |T| O  X  X  X
>  X  X  X  O |a|  |a| O  X  X  X
>  X  X  X  O |b|  |b| O  X  X  X
>  X  X  X  O |l|  |l| O  X  X  X
>  X  X  X  O |e|  |e| O  X  X  X
>  X  X  X  O | |  | | O  X  X  X
>  X  X  X  O | |__| | O  X  X  X
>           O +______+ O
>   M        O  O  O  O        M
>      X  X  X  X  X  X  X  X
>      X  X  X  X  X  X  X  X
>      X  X  X  X  X  X  X  X
>      X  X  X  X  X  X  X  X
> 
> Basically, the idea is to have U-shaped table setup, with the screen up at the open end. You'd get people at the table all the way around (the Os) who plan to participate in the discussion. (I've also seen this done with nested tables for more folks in the discussion.) Rows behind (in 3 directions; the Xs) are for folks who plan to mostly just listen; those could fill the rest of the room and could probably scale to 100 or more seats depending on the size of the room. There would be a few wireless mics to pass around the tables, with perhaps a fixed mic at the bottom of the U for the WG chairs, and a couple of floor mics (the Ms) for folks who aren't around the table who happen to have comments.

I think the problem is who gets to sit at the table.  It’s not always the same people who want to speak on a specific agenda item.   So I don’t think this will work at all for a w.g. meeting like 6man with over a hundred people in the room and a range of topics.  It might possibly for a smaller w.g.  I think it will also discourage people in the “X” seats from speaking.

As others have said, this is also going to be a big problem for remote participation.   Need a lot of microphones, a new who get to speak next protocol, and probably waste a lot of time passing the microphones around.

Bob





> 
> How many of you be willing to run a WG session this way if the setup was offered?
> 
> pr
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