Re: WG meeting structure
Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> Fri, 17 May 2019 15:15 UTC
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Subject: Re: WG meeting structure
To: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
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From: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>
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Ben, On 2019-05-17 22:14, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 08:37:49PM +0800, Loa Andersson wrote: >> All, >> >> I agree with most of what what Fred says, drawing on experience from >> other wg's. >> >> I'm a bit nervous when this type discussions pops up. As long they are >> discussions on "good ideas we tried, and the results we had", I think it >> is fine. >> >> When they slide away to instruct wg chairs what they should do, I'm >> very concerned. >> >> I'm convinced that when it comes to IETF wg's we don't have and will >> never have a seating arrangement that fit all wg's, nor fit a single >> working group for all of its life time. >> >> If there are experiments necessary, let the wg chairs do the experiments >> and the evaluation of the experiments. > > There's a bit of a threshold problem, in that the logistics of the chair > setup means we need some critical mass of WGs to agree to run the same > experiment in the same meeting cycle in order for any of them to happen. > But that shouldn't have to take much else away from the WG chairs' control > over how to run the WG. So you are saying that if I would like to run the table setup for a MPLS meeting as a U, V or A shape, you are saying that you would stop me just because there are no other groups that are doing the same thing? /Loa > > -Ben > -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64
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- Re: WG meeting structure Joel M. Halpern
- Re: WG meeting structure Stephen Farrell
- Re: WG meeting structure Fred Baker
- Re: WG meeting structure Pete Resnick
- Re: WG meeting structure Michael Richardson
- Re: WG meeting structure Michael Richardson
- Re: WG meeting structure Bob Hinden
- Re: WG meeting structure Martin Thomson
- Re: WG meeting structure Kyle Rose
- Re: WG meeting structure Aaron Falk
- Re: WG meeting structure Kyle Rose
- Re: WG meeting structure Toerless Eckert
- Re: WG meeting structure Ole Troan
- Re: WG meeting structure Fred Baker
- Re: WG meeting structure Fred Baker
- RE: WG meeting structure Valery Smyslov
- Re: WG meeting structure Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: WG meeting structure Lars Eggert
- RE: WG meeting structure Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)
- Re: WG meeting structure Mark Nottingham
- Re: WG meeting structure Russ Housley
- Re: WG meeting structure Ole Troan
- RE: WG meeting structure STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: WG meeting structure Mary Barnes
- Re: WG meeting structure Michael Richardson
- Re: WG meeting structure Andrew G. Malis
- Re: WG meeting structure Andrew G. Malis
- RE: WG meeting structure STARK, BARBARA H
- RE: WG meeting structure Linda Dunbar
- RE: WG meeting structure Black, David
- Re: WG meeting structure Eggert, Lars
- Re: WG meeting structure Michael Richardson
- Re: WG meeting structure Michael Richardson
- Re: WG meeting structure Andrew G. Malis
- Re: WG meeting structure Michael Richardson
- Re: WG meeting structure Michael Richardson
- RE: WG meeting structure Black, David
- Re: WG meeting structure Andrew G. Malis
- Re: WG meeting structure Pete Resnick
- Re: WG meeting structure Michael Richardson
- Re: WG meeting structure Michael Richardson
- Re: WG meeting structure Mary Barnes
- Re: WG meeting structure Mary Barnes
- Re: WG meeting structure Michael Richardson
- Re: WG meeting structure Dave Lawrence
- Re: WG meeting structure Fred Baker
- Re: WG meeting structure Loa Andersson
- Re: WG meeting structure Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: WG meeting structure Loa Andersson
- Re: WG meeting structure Fred Baker
- Re: WG meeting structure Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: WG meeting structure Loa Andersson
- Re: WG meeting structure Wes Hardaker
- Re: WG meeting structure Michael Richardson
- Managing CC List Fred Baker
- Re: WG meeting structure Toerless Eckert
- Re: Managing CC List Michael Richardson
- Re: Managing CC List Mary Barnes