Re: [85attendees] are we in meeting rooms or freezers ?

As a point of evidence: Many people sitting on the left side of Salon
D complained about the temperature being too cold, including the
chairs, but I was perfectly comfortable sitting on the right.

Except for the seat itself... But that's another topic.

Cheers,
-Benson

On Nov 6, 2012, at 16:18, Mary Barnes <mary.h.barnes@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm in Salon A and the thermometer on my  backpack indicates that it's
> 78 F in the room.   The standard for most offices in the US is often
> 72 F.  I have never been to a meeting in a US hotel where the meeting
> rooms weren't chilly.  However, when the IETF meeting rooms are full
> they often get quite warm - too warm for my personal preference.
>
> I have noticed that the temperature varies depending upon where you
> sit in a room. So, maybe people should wander the room before
> selecting a seat and find a warmer spot.   Like I said, we debate this
> every  meeting.  Everyone should plan for it to be chilly in the
> meeting rooms and plan accordingly, in particular in the southern part
> of the US where we like our A/C as we spend most of our time with
> higher temps outside.   I will note that I personally find it way too
> warm in most hotels in the Northern US and Europe in the winter.
>
> Mary.
>
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 2:59 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
> <jordi.palet@consulintel.es> wrote:
>> I simply disagree, there are reasonable temperatures for everyone to have
>> a mid point, and the hotel responsibility is to continuously monitor for
>> it, and no need to wait for a complain. They get paid for doing the work
>> correctly, not for waiting until we complain.
>>
>> I agree with some deviations in temperature, but in the SALON C and around
>> is always freezing.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jordi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: Mary Barnes <mary.h.barnes@gmail.com>
>> Responder a: <mary.h.barnes@gmail.com>
>> Fecha: martes, 6 de noviembre de 2012 15:51
>> Para: Jordi Palet Martinez <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>
>> CC: <85attendees@ietf.org>, IETF Secretariat <ietf-secretariat@ietf.org>
>> Asunto: Re: [85attendees] are we in meeting rooms or freezers ?
>>
>>> We have this same discussion every meeting.  Feeling cold is totally
>>> subjective. One can always put on more clothing (I have a very warm
>>> pashmina that I can lend someone) but most of us would prefer not to
>>> take off too much clothing ourselves nor have others do so.  So, it's
>>> much easier for an individual to solve the too cold problem on their
>>> own than to make all the people that aren't too cold even warmer.  I
>>> have a sweater that I have taken off and on over the past two days as
>>> I have moved between rooms of various temperatures. I did use my
>>> pashmina in one meeting on Sunday, but I was wearing a skirt, so was
>>> more easily chilled than normal.    Also, there is hot beverages
>>> during breaks which are nice when one is feeling chilly.
>>>
>>> Mary.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:53 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
>>> <jordi.palet@consulintel.es> wrote:
>>>> As usual, the hotel air condition is extremely cool.
>>>>
>>>> Is the hotel or the IETF going to pay for the medical and leave
>>>> expenses ?
>>>>
>>>> This is in addition against the planet conservation, WASTING energy all
>>>> day around.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jordi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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