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joel jaeggli <joelja@gmail.com> Tue, 06 November 2012 21:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: [85attendees] are we in meeting rooms or freezers ?
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It is a very hard task to balance the AC for a meeting room that is 
empty and then has 500 people in it and is then empty again.

you have to front end load the waste heat removal or it's going to be 
rather windy, the room is therefore cold when empty.

each human should be roughly 400 joules an hour plus laptop.

On 11/6/12 3:51 PM, Mary Barnes wrote:
> We have this same discussion every meeting.  Feeling cold is totally
> subjective. One can always put on more clothing (I have a very warm
> pashmina that I can lend someone) but most of us would prefer not to
> take off too much clothing ourselves nor have others do so.  So, it's
> much easier for an individual to solve the too cold problem on their
> own than to make all the people that aren't too cold even warmer.  I
> have a sweater that I have taken off and on over the past two days as
> I have moved between rooms of various temperatures. I did use my
> pashmina in one meeting on Sunday, but I was wearing a skirt, so was
> more easily chilled than normal.    Also, there is hot beverages
> during breaks which are nice when one is feeling chilly.
>
> Mary.
>
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:53 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
> <jordi.palet@consulintel.es> wrote:
>> As usual, the hotel air condition is extremely cool.
>>
>> Is the hotel or the IETF going to pay for the medical and leave expenses ?
>>
>> This is in addition against the planet conservation, WASTING energy all
>> day around.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jordi
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