IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [apps-discuss] font/*

"t.petch" <ietfc@btconnect.com> Sat, 12 November 2011 12:33 UTC

Return-Path: <ietfc@btconnect.com>
X-Original-To: apps-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: apps-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D88D21F8507 for <apps-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 04:33:30 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.098
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.399, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_15=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l5b3VL-aME65 for <apps-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 04:33:30 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail.btconnect.com (c2beaomr07.btconnect.com [213.123.26.185]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C129F21F84C3 for <apps-discuss@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 04:33:28 -0800 (PST)
Received: from host86-177-208-97.range86-177.btcentralplus.com (HELO pc6) ([86.177.208.97]) by c2beaomr07.btconnect.com with SMTP id FDA38842; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 12:33:21 +0000 (GMT)
Message-ID: <003201cca12e$1f35f860$4001a8c0@gateway.2wire.net>
From: "t.petch" <ietfc@btconnect.com>
To: "Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
References: <4EB86078.8070904@stpeter.im> <BDC0F178EEB88CC4B3D24020@PST.JCK.COM> <4EB8D0F4.9020907@it.aoyama.ac.jp> <555BA718-A5FA-4111-9A8B-1DE99921CCE2@standardstrack.com> <60D34A5D-985C-4C97-A4FA-3CBF5CD31FCF@mnot.net> <4EB9D49C.5010100@it.aoyama.ac.jp><4EBB2FEA.5060602@dcrocker.net> <4EBB50F4.7020501@it.aoyama.ac.jp> <4EBB54E0.9090005@dcrocker.net> <00bb01cc9f87$ff24b9a0$4001a8c0@gateway.2wire.net> <4EBBABC1.1010101@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 12:27:50 +0100
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106
X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Fair-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A0B0301.4EBE6790.005F, actions=tag
X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2011.11.12.114514:17:7.586, ip=86.177.208.97, rules=__HAS_MSGID, __OUTLOOK_MSGID_1, __SANE_MSGID, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __MIME_VERSION, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_MAILER, USER_AGENT_OE, __OUTLOOK_MUA_1, __USER_AGENT_MS_GENERIC, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_WWW, __URI_NO_PATH, BODY_SIZE_1300_1399, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, __OUTLOOK_MUA, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS
X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2beaomr07.btconnect.com
X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B020D.4EBE6792.010A, ss=1, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2010-07-22 22:03:31, dmn=2009-09-10 00:05:08, mode=multiengine
X-Junkmail-IWF: false
Cc: apps-discuss@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] font/*
X-BeenThere: apps-discuss@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: General discussion of application-layer protocols <apps-discuss.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/apps-discuss>, <mailto:apps-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/apps-discuss>
List-Post: <mailto:apps-discuss@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:apps-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-discuss>, <mailto:apps-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 12:33:30 -0000

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
To: "t.petch" <ietfc@btconnect.com>
Cc: <dcrocker@bbiw.net>; <apps-discuss@ietf.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:47 AM


> On 2011/11/10 18:06, t.petch wrote:
> > Dave
> >
> > My bibles say
> >
> > Type(face) Family; Courier, Futura, Century Schoolbook,  ..
> > Typeface; one of the above with a defined
> >   - Style: Roman, Italic
> >   - Weight: Light, Semibold, Bold, ...
> >   - Width: Ultracondensed, Condensed, Expanded, ...
> > Type Font; one of the above with a defined Size
> >   - eg 12-point
>
> As I said before in a mail to Dave, the last point worked well for lead
> type or bitmap fonts, but technology has moved beyond.

Martin

The concepts have not changed and remain useful, IMO, in any discussion
on presentation.  What has changed is the implementation detail so when
I download a new package to my PC, then it will apply to all Fonts, within
a Typeface, as opposed to having a separate module for each Font.
(Incidentally, my bibles all relate to laser printing ie to modern technology
and have nothing to do with lead:-).

But more significantly, as other posts have clarified for me, this thread
is nothing to do with fonts but with type definition languages, so perhaps
it should be 'type/*'.

Tom Petch

> Regards,    Martin.

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email