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Re: [dmarc-ietf] THIS IS ABUSE (it might be)

John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Sat, 08 April 2023 13:59 UTC

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From: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] THIS IS ABUSE (it might be)
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It appears that Eric D. Williams  <eric@infobro.com> said:
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>I think the reliance upon list operators is properly placed on that role.
>It's not a DMARC problem, it's a DKIM problem, I think.

No, it's a DMARC problem. DKIM didn't cause any problems for mailing
lists (ignoring ill-advised and never used ADSP) until DMARC was
layered on top of it, and AOL and Yahoo abused it to foist the support
costs on the rest of the world after they let crooks steal their
users' address books.

R's,
John

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