Re: [dmarc-ietf] Proposed text for p=reject and indirect mail flows

Mark Alley <mark.alley@tekmarc.com> Sun, 09 April 2023 01:17 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Proposed text for p=reject and indirect mail flows
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Personally, I prefer the latter of the two, quoted below.

"to preserve interoperability, domains SHOULD NOT publish p=reject unless they are [not general purpose]* domains"

"Publishing DMARC records with restrictive policies does cause interoperability problems for some normal email usage patterns. Potential impacts MUST be considered before any domain publishes a restrictive policy."

These two combined address how p=reject interoperability risks are considered on most [general purpose] domains today during implementation, while also making well-known the damage that a strict policy can cause to [some types] of indirect mail flow.


On 4/8/2023 7:52 PM, John Levine wrote:
> It appears that Scott Kitterman<sklist@kitterman.com>  said:
>> We could do I think any of the following and they are roughly semantically
>> equivalent:
>>
>> [general purpose]* domains MUST NOT publish p=reject to preserve
>> interoperability
>>
>> to preserve interoperability, domains SHOULD NOT publish p=reject unless they
>> are [not general purpose]* domains
>>
>> which could be accompanied by:
>>
>> [not general purpose]* domains SHOULD determine their email authentication
>> deployment is accurate and complete before publishing restrictive policies
>> (p=quarntine or p=reject) to avoid interoperability issues.
>>
>> Publishing DMARC records with restrictive policies does cause interoperability
>> problems for some normal email usage patterns.  Potential impacts MUST be
>> considered before any domain publishes a restrictive policy.
>>
>> * whatever the right formulation is, that's a related, but distinct (and I
>> think less controversial question).
> I'm OK with any of these.
>
> I do think it's important to make it clear that you lose interopn when
> you publish a policy on a domain that's sending more than transactions
> or spam.
>
> R's,
> John
>
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