Re: [dmarc-ietf] Proposed text for p=reject and indirect mail flows

[Todd Herr <[e-mail]>]

On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 4:01 PM Scott Kitterman <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>
> "...MUST NOT deploy a DMARC policy other than p=none because use of
> p=reject
> or (to a slightly lesser extent) p=quarantine for such domains is
> extremely
> harmful to email interoperability.  Mitigation strategies are discussed in
> [RFC 7960] and [RFC 8617]."
>
> I don't think we need to reiterate what p=reject does here, that's
> extensively
> addressed elsewhere in the document.  I don't think we have enough data to
> opine either way about the effectiveness of such strategies, so it's
> enough to
> point at them here.  We don't currently list RFC 8617 as a reference.  I
> think
> introducing an informative reference here is useful.  It's experimental,
> so we
> definitely don't want to put any normative language around it.
>
> I suspect that's probably not what you would find ideal (it's not what I
> would
> find ideal either, but I can live with it).  Can you live with it?  What
> do
> others think?
>
>
In my estimation, the language you propose here establishes the primacy of
interoperability over the needs/wishes of the domain owner.

My preference is for language that acknowledges the primacy of the domain
owner over interoperability.

I don't have time tonight to propose alternative text, but I wanted to
acknowledge that I've read your message and make a promise to propose
alternative text tomorrow.

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*Todd Herr * | Technical Director, Standards and Ecosystem
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