Re: [dmarc-ietf] Proposed text for p=reject and indirect mail flows

Matthäus Wander <mail@wander.science> Mon, 10 April 2023 10:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Proposed text for p=reject and indirect mail flows
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John Levine wrote on 2023-04-09 15:55:
> When someone sets a DMARC policy for mail from people, it's hard to
> think of a time when they asked at wll whether that was what the
> people wanted. Or if they did, they asked something like "do you want
> your mail to be more secure?" which misses the point.

A domain owner can set their policy without asking their users for 
permission. Not every sender with mail from people is a mail service 
provider catering to the general public.

> PS: I can make anyone's mail 100% secure by unplugging your mail
> server but I'm pretty sure that's not what you want.

You can also ensure interoperability by demanding they MUST NOT use any 
type of authentication, because all it does is impairing mail flows, 
while the security benefit is nothing that IETF standards should mandate 
about.

Neither of these extremes is helpful to actually achieve 
interoperability or security.

Regards,
Matt